"Bringing Left 4 Dead into your marketing mix also brings in the expectations of Left 4 Dead, thus opening yourself up to a lot more criticism." -Adam Sessle...
Counterpoint: Left 4 Dead and Left 4 Dead 2 only had one female character each, while Back4Blood has 8 characters and an even gender split.
Honestly, I've been playing a fair bit of Back 4 Blood since grabbing it half off and I haven't run into any pathfinding or animation issues so far, and back when Left 4 Dead was new and I put hundreds of hours into it sitting in the library at my college instead of going to class there were tons of animation and pathing issues there too. It's a nice nostalgia trip with some QoL things like being able to aim or run, instead of being stuck speedwalking everywhere and hipfiring; I tried going back and playing Left 4 Dead 2 a few months ago and it just feels so janky these days.
So were the L4D and L4D2 casts. Though that reminds me of the worst thing about B4B: unlike in L4D you can't use the console to bind a say line command with the death scream or horde alerted audio to your fire button so you'd just constantly be screaming while you're shooting. It was so obnoxious but so funny.
Yeah I couldn't play Disco Elysium because it came out right around the time I started my transition and I had already spent decades pretending to be an alcoholic depressed dude. Really killed the vibe of the game for me.
Same, with rare exceptions. And with coop games, because most of my friends are the same way, that becomes a problem with character driven games where it's like "ok, who gets to play the one female character and who's getting stuck with the gruff old guy or the burly biker?" because so many of those games just make the bare minimum of characters and make everyone choose a different one. Like Vermintide 2, where you've got 4 players and 5 characters to choose from, with only two female characters and to make matters worse everyone has a radically different kit and playstyle too so no matter what someone's unhappy.
That's probably the most redeeming thing B4B has going for it, that there are enough options no one gets forced to play one that'll make it unpleasant for them.
Counterpoint: Left 4 Dead and Left 4 Dead 2 only had one female character each, while Back4Blood has 8 characters and an even gender split.
Honestly, I've been playing a fair bit of Back 4 Blood since grabbing it half off and I haven't run into any pathfinding or animation issues so far, and back when Left 4 Dead was new and I put hundreds of hours into it sitting in the library at my college instead of going to class there were tons of animation and pathing issues there too. It's a nice nostalgia trip with some QoL things like being able to aim or run, instead of being stuck speedwalking everywhere and hipfiring; I tried going back and playing Left 4 Dead 2 a few months ago and it just feels so janky these days.
Yeah, but L4D2's cast is 50% political.
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So were the L4D and L4D2 casts. Though that reminds me of the worst thing about B4B: unlike in L4D you can't use the console to bind a say line command with the death scream or horde alerted audio to your fire button so you'd just constantly be screaming while you're shooting. It was so obnoxious but so funny.
i pretty much refuse to play any game that doesnt have a female lead character i can play in it
disco elysium im looking at you :trans-sad:
Yeah I couldn't play Disco Elysium because it came out right around the time I started my transition and I had already spent decades pretending to be an alcoholic depressed dude. Really killed the vibe of the game for me.
Same, with rare exceptions. And with coop games, because most of my friends are the same way, that becomes a problem with character driven games where it's like "ok, who gets to play the one female character and who's getting stuck with the gruff old guy or the burly biker?" because so many of those games just make the bare minimum of characters and make everyone choose a different one. Like Vermintide 2, where you've got 4 players and 5 characters to choose from, with only two female characters and to make matters worse everyone has a radically different kit and playstyle too so no matter what someone's unhappy.
That's probably the most redeeming thing B4B has going for it, that there are enough options no one gets forced to play one that'll make it unpleasant for them.