• CyberMao [it/its]
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    3 years ago

    The hippies and the socialists hated each other. Never forget that hippies were the precursors to the Silicon Valley tech bros and tended to recreate the systemic oppression they rebelled against within their communes. But they were less anticapitalist, so they became the “safe” form of rebellion that we now associate with the 60’s and 70’s. I’d argue that the punk aesthetic has become a pretty well-commodified form of rebellion too. Literally the main villain from Trolls 2 whose dad is voiced by Ozzy Osbourne wears all punk shit.

      • cawsby [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        The peak of the Young Republicans on college campuses was during the Vietnam war.

        The hippies are vastly overrepresented in movies and TV. Maybe 10-20% of the youth culture at the time could ostensibly be called hippy in any sense. About as many hippies in the 1960's as there were ravers in the 1990's.

        • Nagarjuna [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Anything from the white counterculture was called hippies by the press. poets, SDS, Yippies, Psychadelics users, Buddhists, rock and roll fans, folk fans, all of it.

          Abbie Hoffman gave a speech about how "Hippies" didn't mean anything, but implied a lot of things and was more a rhetorical bludgeon than a reflection of reality.

          What we think of now as "hippies" is a consumer identity built out of the rubble of the 60s and 70s to sell crystals and pyramid schemes to traumatized trust fund kids

          • cawsby [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            Yippies were the OG leftist troll army. The world needs more socialist theater kids.

    • Nagarjuna [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      The hippies and socialists were the same thing lol. The idea of a concrete hippie identity is a new thing. Back in the 60s participating in the new left would get you called a hippie just as much as dropping acid at Woodstock would.

      The new left had critiques of lots of things: the commodification of youth culture, the pacifism of the religious movements, the use of the word hippie as a rhetorical bludgeon similar to "antifa," all sorts of stuff. But they didn't have beef with hippies because "hippies" as a consumer identity built around psych rock, drugs, crystals and cults didn't really exist yet.