I don't think many hippies exist any more as part of an actual social phenomenon. Anyone who intentionally adopts the dress and mannerisms is pining after decades past.
I think we just have a strong urge to disavow ourselves from an aesthetic we see as misfired, hypocritical, and corrupted to the right, which is fair, but the real story is more complicated. If you wanna claim they all went Q go for it, but I need more than anecdotes to believe they didn't just split in a ton of directions.
'Hardcore punk' can mean a wide variety of things. I'd say once the camo pants and mosh metal stuff came in hardcore became a pretty different thing than punk
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I don't think many hippies exist any more as part of an actual social phenomenon. Anyone who intentionally adopts the dress and mannerisms is pining after decades past.
I think we just have a strong urge to disavow ourselves from an aesthetic we see as misfired, hypocritical, and corrupted to the right, which is fair, but the real story is more complicated. If you wanna claim they all went Q go for it, but I need more than anecdotes to believe they didn't just split in a ton of directions.
Hence why they are so prone to reactionary shit.
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Uh, punks are the same for the most part. Nothing has really changed in punk since 1988
Hardcore punk and powerviolence scenes were big.
'Hardcore punk' can mean a wide variety of things. I'd say once the camo pants and mosh metal stuff came in hardcore became a pretty different thing than punk
I was thinking Black Flag, Dead Kennedys, maybe second incarnation of the misfits, etc. Idk the dates though, tbf.
Everyone hated the second misfits and those bands were at their peak around 1981
:I-was-saying: I liked the second misfits
Also that makes sense