Yup. It’s basically an internalization of the Bad People Good System technocratic mindset. As if you can just tweak the system so that all inputs produce favorable outputs no matter who is running it. The reality is that, while it’s beneficial to do some basic training in how to combat the ways our brain deceives us, being logical is a state of mind, not a state of being. There are people who are fully capable of critically assessing their situation and still act irrationally. If you need to cut a piece of wood and have a power saw, it turns out that human beings have many situations where they will still use a hand saw or maybe just bang their fists against the board until it snaps. And of course logic can’t tell what to value or how to regulate your own emotions. I think this is one reason why the debate bro types on Reddit will rage so hard against “checking your privilege” or rooting out internalized bigotry. You can agree that a position is correct pretty quickly, but doing the work to identify historical emotional reactions and short circuit their resulting bigotry is a whole emotional process of self exploration that can’t be done but just arguing well
A lot of the time "pure cold logic" also provides the inferior solution to emotion, especially when dealing with larger scale issues. It's also rarely if ever actually logical, the "logical" solution is just whatever is best for that specific guy, and the part that's pure and cold about it is that it's genuinely sadistic in its mistreatment of every other person involved. Reddit logic bros are unilaterally broken in a way that probably cannot be fixed.
Yup. It’s basically an internalization of the Bad People Good System technocratic mindset. As if you can just tweak the system so that all inputs produce favorable outputs no matter who is running it. The reality is that, while it’s beneficial to do some basic training in how to combat the ways our brain deceives us, being logical is a state of mind, not a state of being. There are people who are fully capable of critically assessing their situation and still act irrationally. If you need to cut a piece of wood and have a power saw, it turns out that human beings have many situations where they will still use a hand saw or maybe just bang their fists against the board until it snaps. And of course logic can’t tell what to value or how to regulate your own emotions. I think this is one reason why the debate bro types on Reddit will rage so hard against “checking your privilege” or rooting out internalized bigotry. You can agree that a position is correct pretty quickly, but doing the work to identify historical emotional reactions and short circuit their resulting bigotry is a whole emotional process of self exploration that can’t be done but just arguing well
A lot of the time "pure cold logic" also provides the inferior solution to emotion, especially when dealing with larger scale issues. It's also rarely if ever actually logical, the "logical" solution is just whatever is best for that specific guy, and the part that's pure and cold about it is that it's genuinely sadistic in its mistreatment of every other person involved. Reddit logic bros are unilaterally broken in a way that probably cannot be fixed.