It seems to first come from MRA spaces, but then I seen some TERFs co-opt it, and even the FDS subreddit uses some of that logic?

Is this really interpretation people are getting from nature? I did see FDS, and TERFs try to compare humans to bee social structures which is a weird take.

  • CyberMao [it/its]
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    3 years ago

    Under capitalism everyone is disposable. Protecting your community is a collective activity, which most people have no language to process the concept of. So if men are expected to be protectors under capitalism, being part of a disposable collective is pretty accurate. The real delusion is in asserting that they’re the primary or even sole source of disposable labor

    • blight [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      These people don't apply it to labor though, it's usually about, you guessed it, procreation. A woman can only have one child at a time, but a man can impregnate many women at once. Not that this is how any society has ever organized itself (except upper classes keeping harems etc.) but we don't care about facts, we only care about wild speculation.

      • CyberMao [it/its]
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        3 years ago

        Yeah it’s fundamentally sexist and illogical. That’s why they have to talk about the “natural state” of humans to evoke the proper reaction in the first place. I was just trying to point out where those fundamental feelings come from that end up latching into the sexist extrapolations

      • Nakoichi [they/them]M
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        3 years ago

        Wild that so called feminists would be advocating an ideology that presumes harems are good actually.

        (And hey, if that's what you want you do you as long as there's meaningful consent on all sides this is not a dig at polyamory)

      • supersaiyan [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        I feel like some MRA Men internalize this thought process. Yes lots are playing victim, but I still think many genuinely believe this is theory of how humans always worked.