It seems to first come from MRA spaces, but then I seen some TERFs co-opt it, and even the FDS subreddit uses some of that logic?
Is this really interpretation people are getting from nature? I did see FDS, and TERFs try to compare humans to bee social structures which is a weird take.
Under capitalism everyone is disposable. Protecting your community is a collective activity, which most people have no language to process the concept of. So if men are expected to be protectors under capitalism, being part of a disposable collective is pretty accurate. The real delusion is in asserting that they’re the primary or even sole source of disposable labor
These people don't apply it to labor though, it's usually about, you guessed it, procreation. A woman can only have one child at a time, but a man can impregnate many women at once. Not that this is how any society has ever organized itself (except upper classes keeping harems etc.) but we don't care about facts, we only care about wild speculation.
Yeah it’s fundamentally sexist and illogical. That’s why they have to talk about the “natural state” of humans to evoke the proper reaction in the first place. I was just trying to point out where those fundamental feelings come from that end up latching into the sexist extrapolations
Wild that so called feminists would be advocating an ideology that presumes harems are good actually.
(And hey, if that's what you want you do you as long as there's meaningful consent on all sides this is not a dig at polyamory)
I feel like some MRA Men internalize this thought process. Yes lots are playing victim, but I still think many genuinely believe this is theory of how humans always worked.
Men are overrepresented in high risk occupations and historically men were expected to protect the family from danger so MRAs basically use this to "prove" that men actually the real ones experience sexism. However they won't go beyond this surface level analysis because then you would have to question the existence of these social structures and possibly get rid of them which would mean they can't play the oppression card anymore.
You never see MRAs advocating for safer workplaces or tearing down regressive gender roles. It's always "women should be grateful and should shut up because men are the ones who are actually hurting"
They probably heard somewhere that humans are compostable and got confused.
It's one of those ideas from real science that got coopted and bastardized by certain groups because a surface-level reading of it confirms all of their prejudices about the world. If a population suffers a mass casualty event, that population is more likely to bounce back if the casualties were concentrated on males than if they were concentrated on females, because of how pregnancy works. Some MRAs like to imagine that all societies are organized around instinctual knowledge of this fact, and that all social constructs put men into dangerous positions like militaries and whatnot as a result.
In fact, it’s probably better that way because the shit-tier men don’t get to pass on their shit-tier genes.
Shut the fuck up fascist.
I've had self proclaimed leftists say I shouldn't have kids because I'm diabetic. Like generally good takes, and then that.
