• Judge_Juche [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    If we get into a nuclear war 30 years after the end of the USSR, and all becuase the US wants to extend NATO into Ukraine for some fucking reason, then all I can say is that it's a fitting end to this ridiculous and stupid country.

    Hopefully our nuclear command and control is as shitty as I think it is and we don't hurt anyone else as we exit.

    • PorkrollPosadist [he/him, they/them]M
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      3 years ago

      It's all about that Nordstream 2 pipeline I think. Europe is energy constrained, Russia has the energy, US doesn't want Europe to become economically entangled with Russia. American soft power is crumbling like a dry sandcastle and it's lashing out. Not to mention Hunter Biden's personal connections with that Ukrainian gas company (which will lose out big time if Nordstream 2 starts running).

      • SoyViking [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        If you talk about stuff like this to liberals they will think you are some sort of crazy conspiracy theorist. Liberals think of politics like children, they see NATO as essentially no different from a little league baseball team the big bad Russian bully won't let tiny little Ukraine join, for no reason whatsoever besides being bad and Russian.

      • Sum [any]
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        3 years ago

        Any data or links related to Europe's energy demands or Sleepy Joe's connection with the Ukrainian gas company? Not doubting you, it's just what you said is very interesting.

        • PorkrollPosadist [he/him, they/them]M
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          3 years ago

          I think it might be a bit conspiracy brained to pin the whole thing on the Biden's personal corruption, but Hunter had that cushy no-show job at Burisma. It blew up during the election when the rightists tried to use it as an October surprise and the liberals wrote it off as another Russian disinfo campaign.

          I don't have NY specific stories in mind, but I've been hearing murmurs of energy shortages and price hikes. I can look more into it later when I get home.

      • Judge_Juche [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        Ya, it's mostly wishful thinking, like you know if there is a nuclear exchange between Russia and the US, a sub commander in the Pacific will try and nuke China for no reason other than racism. Like he will Slim Pickens' it if he has too.

        However, the US nuclear command system is extremely convoluted and old. There are literally hundreds of systems that have to communicate with each other to launch the arsenal. And a lot of this is due to the extremely aggressive US nuclear posture, so you need all these checks and counterchecks to prevent unauthorized launch. Like the biggest irony would be if this all failed becuase the US has been the primary nuclear aggressor since 1945. But you just know they will manage to somehow launch all the missiles but they will also target every national capital in the world by accident.