I know we are defed’d from them but I couldn’t resist the urge to share this absolutely uproarious chudpost from world.

https://lemmy.world/comment/7020579

Meta will become the champion of Open Source and near completely become as known for it as Google was in the mid to late 00’s. They will dominate AI to such an extent Facebook will be the inbred backwater project that no one thinks about when the name Meta pops up. I know it’s hard to swallow and believe right now, but the Zuck isn’t the driver that matters here. Yann LeCun is the person behind Meta AI and he is Bell Labs alumni beating the war drum of open source for market leadership, not monopoly, just leadership. The majority of the digital age exists on those credentials; a Bell Labs alumni pushing Open Source. That is worth betting big on IMO.

It may take a couple hundred years, but AGI lead government is coming, once conservative stupidity fades. A politician with infinite persistence and fractal attention is far better than anything finite corruptible humans with tiny attention spans can offer the public.

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  • combat_brandonism [they/them]
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    10 months ago

    I feel that it's not responsible (for me at least) to clump both of these groups together.

    I mean that's sort of my point, in distinguishing open source software (very much not free software in whatever acronym you want to use) from free software. Conflating free software with facebook open sourcing their work to commoditize their complements is misleading I think.

    OP that we're dunking on here is some open source fetishist that's never for a second introspected on what "Open Source" means or how it might be distinct from the copyleft movement, and so has wound up in the position of stanning these monopolists and making absurd statements like "open source for market leadership, not monopoly, just leadership". What no theory does to a mf, basically.

    FOSS vs FLOSS is some RMS pedantic bs and misses the forest for the trees as is usual with him. The randian reactionaries at the open source initiative don't call their shit FOSS and never talk about freedom. There's a reason OP is fellating "Open Source" and not "Free Software" here.

    essentially erasing the actual open source folks who started the movement

    Can you elaborate here? I think RMS is a shitty person that doesn't belong in the position of leadership he's been given. But "actual open source" sounds suspiciously close to Open Source Initiative, something founded by Randian misogynists like Perens and Raymond well after the copyleft movement had gained traction in order to recuperate compatible parts of free software to better serve capital.

    • jaeme
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      10 months ago

      Can you elaborate here?

      Yeah you hit it pretty much on the head here. Basically your OSI/Github types who created a campaign against copyleft. BS like "post-open" that sprouted recently from that same group that basically are nonfree licenses all over again instead of tackling the actual issue of capitalism.

      Sometimes I think I just too worried all the time. FOSS spaces are just very terminally online (out of necessity really since we are so small comparatively) and that leads to a lot of reactionary takes that aren't actually reflective of real people's attitudes. Which leads to a lot of arguing with people who haven't even done their basic homework.

      I see your point, I still have lingering reservations about using the term FOSS but I can understand it better now.

      • combat_brandonism [they/them]
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        10 months ago

        FOSS spaces are just very terminally online (out of necessity really since we are so small comparatively) and that leads to a lot of reactionary takes that aren't actually reflective of real people's attitudes.

        100-com we've got a good one here tho, thanks for keeping it that way