"Old songs now represent 70 percent of the U.S. music market. Even worse: The new-music market is actually shrinking."

    • Gosplan14 [any]
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      3 years ago

      can’t wait for nu-numetal

      well...

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIvaeu6Oxzc

      It not only won the Finnish qualifier for the competition, but got fourth place in the audience vote lmao

      • TrudeauCastroson [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        I feel like Eurovision shouldn't count because the songs usually chart in the countries they're from but don't have much staying power.

        I mean, Flo Rida made an appearance in a Eurovision 2021 song, I thought he stopped existing in 2011.

        El Diablo which was Cyprus sounded like a royalty-free version of Bad Romance by Lady Gaga.

        A lot of the production/instrumentation on the more pop stuff feels like it wouldn't sound out of place in 2008 and idk how to put my finger on it.

        • Gosplan14 [any]
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          3 years ago

          Eh, not necessarily. Using the obvious example... ABBA.

          Though I agree that these songs rarely chart outside of Europe. Though songs like Euphoria can be heard on Top40 radio across basically all of Europe to this day, most of the modern charts are still dominated by whatever is popular in the United States (TERF-Island used to be a powerhouse too, but its relevancy kinda died off in the mid 2000s).

          Though tbh it's kind of a shame since there's a lot of good music in Eurovision, especially in the 90s and it's a really fun way to discover non-english songs and artists (well, until they lifted the "songs only in the country's official language" rule in 1998 or 1999 - which is also when they removed the orchestra)

          • TrudeauCastroson [he/him]
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            I only really know of modern Eurovision, only watched ones after the orchestra's been gone. Didn't even think to include ABBA because I feel like big groups don't do Eurovision as much as before. I associate Eurovision with weird people singing in English in accents I've never heard before.

            Maybe it's because I'm not in Europe so that's why I never heard of anyone. Although I'll never get over Flo Rida being in Eurovision 2021, I died of laughter from that because it was so unexpected.

            Does Eurovision set any modern trends? Like, are there going to be more nu-nu-finnish-metal because of Eurovision? Is there going to be more Portuguese nasal singer guys? My favourite entry was Ukraine's electro-folk music so I actually hope it did something to expose more of that.

            Iceland went from 2018-some generic cute guy singing, 2019 S&M leather people, to 2021-22 Dadi Freyer which couldn't be more different. Did any of those set long lasting trends or imitators?

            I'm just thinking of old winners that I can't name any other songs of, so to me Eurovision might reflect fads or maybe just a different avenue to get enough exposure to be a global one-hit wonder but still have a decent career more locally.

            Neuro Euro is an all time classic that should've made the final. Jazz-fusion spoken word ranting about the EU