Afaik, no one's ever done an actual quantitative analysis, but if the US was barred from exploiting the global south tomorrow the standard of living for all US Americans (other than the rich) would plummet. It wouldn't even be a recession, more like all of capitalism just seizing up. iPhones now cost like $5k and no one could afford them anyway. I think it would be orders of magnitude worse than what the Russians had to deal with in the 90s with their "shock therapy". It's truly astounding how dependent we are on exploiting labor and resources in the global south. Like... damn near everything we own was made by people making shit wages and living in conditions that would make US Americans cry after living in them for a few hours.

It pisses me off so much that 99% of US Americans think their lifestyle of cheap, plentiful treats is the ultimate evidence that capitalism works. They say "look how much stuff we have" and compare it to what folks in AES states had. They never think about there are like 100+ countries out there that are every bit as capitalistic as the USA. And yet they are living in crushing poverty. Why is the US a symbol of the success of capitalism but poor countries don't reflect it's weaknesses?

The standard of living that most people in the US enjoy is more thanks to the exploitation of the workers and resources of the global south than it is to some inherent positive quality of capitalism. Take that away and US Americans would have a very different life from what they have come to expect. For the working class in the US, without all that exploitation I don't see how our lives would be materially different from workers in the global south.

And I haven't even gotten into how much of our lifestyle is driven by environmental exploitation! US Americans consume resources at something like 5X what is considered a sustainable rate. Force us to live sustainably and that would be another huge blow to treatflow and the "success" of capitalis.

  • sabrinm [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I'm perfectly fine with acknowledging that to some degree workers in the first world do benefit from the table scraps of imperialism, but the bourgeoisie of the 3rd world has a genuine seat at the table. That's the major difference.

    The proletariat in America has more in common with the proletariat in the poor countries than either has in common with the bourgeoisie of their own country. This is what being a true socialist internationalist means. The argument that American workers benefit from imperialism and therefore they are inherently opposed to anti-imperialism only suggests it's in their interests to be pro imperialism and nationalism, which does no one any favors.

    • OfficialBenGarrison [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      The argument that American workers benefit from imperialism and therefore they are inherently opposed to anti-imperialism only suggests it’s in their interests to be pro imperialism and nationalism, which does no one any favors.

      Couldn't have said it better myself, I recognize I'm getting screwed by wealthy parasites but what is disturbing is that when you take most of the world into account, I'm one of the lucky ones. It will obviously be something that elites will try to use in order to get working class Americans to defend them: "If you're mad at me, then those yucky brown people, and especially brown people from countries I can't name on a map have a right to be angry at you!"