• 6bicycles [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      I feel like point two kinda goes hard against the idea of a meritocracy the libs are supposed to have. Surely this should've been something about bootstraps or learning to code

      • WalterBongjammin [they/them,comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        I feel like libs largely save those kinds of arguments for the domestic working class though. Imo, applied to international relations they're too openly eugenicist for most libs. Conservatives will openly argue that stuff, but libs tend to just echo imperialist propaganda when it comes to anyone that the US foreign policy blob deems to be an enemy, while pretending that all the dictatorships that they are creating/propping up are 'burgeoning Jeffersonian democracies' or some other bollocks

      • nohaybanda [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Meritocracy is a rhetorical, not moral/political, position. You use it to shut up people who want to live in a more fair and just world.

        • 6bicycles [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Like the strawfigure-esque whatever OPs picture is arguing against? That woulda been a slamdunk for the other libs.

          • nohaybanda [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            Maybe it's the vodka, but I'm not sure what you're saying here.

            • 6bicycles [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              The whole premise of question 2 seems set up to go full lib "well maybe the exploited should just pull themselves up by their bootstraps like [one in a million case of an african billionaire I googled 5 seconds ago" but instead it goes full "human suffering doesn't register to me".

    • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      I think this is why a lot of liberals end up fearing nihilism, because to square their ideology they have to be honest about denying humanity to exploited nations. They have to end up believing in nothing and wanting to die.