Yeah, if you actually look at their history objectively, without all the anti-communist brainworms that most of us have gotten fed our entire lives, you just have to be fucking impressed at what they've managed to accomplish.
The end of the Soviet Union is a great example, with the massive decrease in life expectancy that followed - even in its last years, when it was definitely a deeply flawed and troubled state, it was still massively superior to the capitalism that followed. If even "failed" and "corrupted" socialism is still just so much better for the average person than capitalism, then it makes one wonder about what these countries would have been able to achieve if they didn't have to deal with the constant pressure and threats from capitalist states - what would the Soviets have been able to do if they didn't have to spend so much money on the military in order to keep up with the Americans? Or if we go even earlier - what if they hadn't lost such a massive segment of their population in WW2? We had this thread some days ago, where someone brought up how the war completely wrecked the party's younger cadres, which contributed a lot to the later gerontocracy - how would things have been if all these young men (and women) hadn't died at the hands of the Nazis?
Yeah, if you actually look at their history objectively, without all the anti-communist brainworms that most of us have gotten fed our entire lives, you just have to be fucking impressed at what they've managed to accomplish.
The end of the Soviet Union is a great example, with the massive decrease in life expectancy that followed - even in its last years, when it was definitely a deeply flawed and troubled state, it was still massively superior to the capitalism that followed. If even "failed" and "corrupted" socialism is still just so much better for the average person than capitalism, then it makes one wonder about what these countries would have been able to achieve if they didn't have to deal with the constant pressure and threats from capitalist states - what would the Soviets have been able to do if they didn't have to spend so much money on the military in order to keep up with the Americans? Or if we go even earlier - what if they hadn't lost such a massive segment of their population in WW2? We had this thread some days ago, where someone brought up how the war completely wrecked the party's younger cadres, which contributed a lot to the later gerontocracy - how would things have been if all these young men (and women) hadn't died at the hands of the Nazis?