This is the average liberal understanding of Ukraine's position in world war 2. I've heard my whole life that the Soviets were so evil that the nazis were welcomed. There's never a mention of which Ukrainians welcomed the nazis (or their class loyalties). The narrative is so unscrutinized that I've heard this from Ukrainian descended jews saying it to me (also a Ukrainian descended jew).
This reminds me of a Twitter interaction I saw a while ago. Some Ukraine flag guy was claiming that it was actually Ukraine which won WWII because the 1st Ukrainian Front was involved in the Battle of Berlin (not how front naming worked but yeah). Then someone brought up the rpes which happened in Berlin right afterwards and asked if that means Ukrainians were rpists. OP did a complete 180 and blamed all the crimes on "the Russians in the Soviet Army".
The same people arguing the Nazis were welcomed as liberators are the same people doing the mental olympics trying to justify how Bandera/OUN were not in fact actual Nazis and how that swastika on every Ukrainian army photo is actually just a norse rune or some shit.
This is the average liberal understanding of Ukraine's position in world war 2. I've heard my whole life that the Soviets were so evil that the nazis were welcomed. There's never a mention of which Ukrainians welcomed the nazis (or their class loyalties). The narrative is so unscrutinized that I've heard this from Ukrainian descended jews saying it to me (also a Ukrainian descended jew).
This reminds me of a Twitter interaction I saw a while ago. Some Ukraine flag guy was claiming that it was actually Ukraine which won WWII because the 1st Ukrainian Front was involved in the Battle of Berlin (not how front naming worked but yeah). Then someone brought up the rpes which happened in Berlin right afterwards and asked if that means Ukrainians were rpists. OP did a complete 180 and blamed all the crimes on "the Russians in the Soviet Army".
Fucking Ukraine flag bros man.
So true! I too choose to believe Goebbels at face value!
The same people arguing the Nazis were welcomed as liberators are the same people doing the mental olympics trying to justify how Bandera/OUN were not in fact actual Nazis and how that swastika on every Ukrainian army photo is actually just a norse rune or some shit.
Don't bother going there.
Imagine erasing the 3 million Ukrainians who fought in the Red Army from history in favor of a few thousand dudes who really wanted to do genocide.