Reddit is just going to be 4chan. The left...left or got banned. The right has been obsessed with having a dominant cultural presence there for years. They've worked on taking over subs and slowly pushing the site to the right. At the end of the day the people who are going to spend the most time online and post the most about their grievances are the right. They were able to turn youtube's algorithm into an alt-right pipeline for the same reason. Liberals aren't equipped nor have the inclination to properly get rid of them. They're not going to go away, only ratchet the entire site to the right. In 5 years reddit will actually be like stormfront. Spotify will be the home of Rogan, Peterson, and whoever else. Youtube will just be Prager U.
Social media is going to the right and that's why it's important we let them while building actual in-person networks and influence. It's the perfect time to trap the fuckers online and let them toil away for decades thinking that posting is how power works. But if we choose to remain very online as well and don't do anything to build a real social presence in the physical world, they will win both.
At the end of the day the people who are going to spend the most time online and post the most about their grievances are the right. They were able to turn youtube’s algorithm into an alt-right pipeline for the same reason.
The right taking over yt is at least partially due to their largest channels all being vocally aligned with corporate interests and receiving tons of funding in return. Shapiro, Crowder, PragerU, Peterson and so on and so on, they're all on the payroll of Texas oil money as they're vocal climate change deniers (or, in Kermit's case, climate deniers). The fash turn of :reddit-logo: is likewise propagated by corporate donors and federal agitprop squads. r/neoliberal is a PPI pet project, the rampant sinophobia is heavily astroturfed etc., reddit's head of policy has CIA links etc. etc.
The fact that there's a bunch of terminally online fash weirdos as well doesn't make these takeovers organic. Successful PR always utilizes people like that as multipliers, but no rightwing movement succeeds on its own accord. This has always been a result of the ruling class propping the fascists up either deliberately or neglectfully.
Definitely agreed that we need to be building in-person networks, but I don’t care for the idea that the right is winning because they’re just more online or that we should surrender that space as a result. Right wingers dominate social media because they have the support of capital up to the point where they get too much public backlash for recruiting children to wear the iron cross or whatever the fuck. We’ve seen it a many times. Left wing sub gets popular on Reddit. Admins coup the mods or manufacture a splitting event. Right wing “moderate” alternatives are promoted. Given a true free market of attention, the left would be doing fine online. But it’s not a free market. It’s an automated propaganda machine that we’re expected to exist within.
I think the ideal would be to tie the physical organizing in with a new form of decentralized social media. Allow cells to form naturally while sharing information. A propaganda machine not controlled by capital.
The fact that all of social media ventures are, well, capitalist ventures run by libertarians techbros with delusion of grandeur, it is no surprise that they would be biased against leftist thoughts and supports right wing thoughts in reaction, even if only tacitly.
Reddit is just going to be 4chan. The left...left or got banned. The right has been obsessed with having a dominant cultural presence there for years. They've worked on taking over subs and slowly pushing the site to the right. At the end of the day the people who are going to spend the most time online and post the most about their grievances are the right. They were able to turn youtube's algorithm into an alt-right pipeline for the same reason. Liberals aren't equipped nor have the inclination to properly get rid of them. They're not going to go away, only ratchet the entire site to the right. In 5 years reddit will actually be like stormfront. Spotify will be the home of Rogan, Peterson, and whoever else. Youtube will just be Prager U.
Social media is going to the right and that's why it's important we let them while building actual in-person networks and influence. It's the perfect time to trap the fuckers online and let them toil away for decades thinking that posting is how power works. But if we choose to remain very online as well and don't do anything to build a real social presence in the physical world, they will win both.
The right taking over yt is at least partially due to their largest channels all being vocally aligned with corporate interests and receiving tons of funding in return. Shapiro, Crowder, PragerU, Peterson and so on and so on, they're all on the payroll of Texas oil money as they're vocal climate change deniers (or, in Kermit's case, climate deniers). The fash turn of :reddit-logo: is likewise propagated by corporate donors and federal agitprop squads. r/neoliberal is a PPI pet project, the rampant sinophobia is heavily astroturfed etc., reddit's head of policy has CIA links etc. etc.
The fact that there's a bunch of terminally online fash weirdos as well doesn't make these takeovers organic. Successful PR always utilizes people like that as multipliers, but no rightwing movement succeeds on its own accord. This has always been a result of the ruling class propping the fascists up either deliberately or neglectfully.
Definitely agreed that we need to be building in-person networks, but I don’t care for the idea that the right is winning because they’re just more online or that we should surrender that space as a result. Right wingers dominate social media because they have the support of capital up to the point where they get too much public backlash for recruiting children to wear the iron cross or whatever the fuck. We’ve seen it a many times. Left wing sub gets popular on Reddit. Admins coup the mods or manufacture a splitting event. Right wing “moderate” alternatives are promoted. Given a true free market of attention, the left would be doing fine online. But it’s not a free market. It’s an automated propaganda machine that we’re expected to exist within.
I think the ideal would be to tie the physical organizing in with a new form of decentralized social media. Allow cells to form naturally while sharing information. A propaganda machine not controlled by capital.
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The fact that all of social media ventures are, well, capitalist ventures run by libertarians techbros with delusion of grandeur, it is no surprise that they would be biased against leftist thoughts and supports right wing thoughts in reaction, even if only tacitly.
Is it even right wing? Or, at least, more right wing than it was during Ron Paul mania or the The_Donald heyday?
It just feels more and more like a propagandized monoculture. Just boilerplate American domestic mainstream dogma.
Like, what is currently being headlined that would be to the right of a Bill Clinton democrat from the 90s?