Don’t mind me, I’m just a lumpen trying to teach myself theory.
But essentially, what he says is that the BPP is a thing of it’s own, and is not a traditional ML or Maoist org.
I like it bc I am an unaligned eclectic leftist myself. I study all tendencies. I study history.
My brain hurts trying to comprehend the nightmare that is MLM tendencies.
What's the deal with the boiling babies thing? Can I have a source on that because it gets brought up a lot and for being so extreme it seems slightly sus to me I just want a source.
Yeah this is pedantic and not a defense but it seems like they just shot and hacked up people with axes in that village . It's probably best to not massacre the people to keep them on your side so I don't understand how people think Gonzalo is the next head of Marxism or anything .
Big oof from the Naxalites for publishing "Release Chairman Gonzalo" "RIP Gonzalo" articles. Though I wonder if they think it's the CIA making up the story.
One of my main theoretical issues, which is due to me not reading much communist theory from Asia - which is also due to the fact I'm reading up on the history of the region since it'll help me understand all of the euphemisms and historical references that writers from the region use. You can't really understand what the fuck someone's talking about if they're talking about being as cunning as Zhuge Liang to have your enemy dancing in your palm. - is how is Mao's theoretical concept of the massed line different from the theoretical works put out of the Bolsheviks and the Left-SRs a few decades earlier.
I'll try to answer my own questions on the whole conundrum when I finish up my own studying. So no sweat on putting in the work of writing an essay.
Is the BPP actually what socialism with American characteristics look like?
well, I think I would like to learn more about the BPP, so I can't rly answer that question. But I would be interested if somebody credible had something to say about it.
I think any lumpen focused movement would fall under the 'socialism with X characteristics' movement. The BPP went thru transformations while drawing on other movements throughout the world, and eventually recognizing that the set of circumstances aren't always the same across the board.
It's a tragedy that the BPP movement, among others, failed. Any movement in any country failing is a tragedy, but the loss of knowledge amongst the black populace in regards to the socialist currents that ran across these movements just 40-50 years ago had been complete, especially when you see just how bereft of any socialist tendencies the modern offshoots of these movements are. In a period of 20 years, the civil rights movement died, socialist movements were destroyed from the inside out, any sense of a black 'middle class' collapsed, social services wiped out under twisted Reaganomics, the advent of crack-cocaine, and black college enrollment plummeted. Imagine for a period of several years feeling euphoria and optimism, not knowing what would await buy '68
If you're giga-brained like :amber: you just say they were silly ineffective anarchists because they liked to do a mutual aid.
I don't know how common that nonsense is but yeah. You may find some people not so supportive of them.
The level of bourgeois decadence from these podcasters is unbelievable. To say something like that without any sense of irony, with no understanding of the conditions that black people were facing at the time...
Off the top of my head they started out as ml-mzt with black nationalism emphasized in their educationals, and were plagued with sexism and racist characteristics (this is to say the early party was chauvinistic against women in the Party and towards other ethnicities that liked what they were doing and wanted to join under their banner). As the party grew and matured from a small localized outfit to a national party organization they corrected the chauvinistic tendencies through correcting sexist tendencies by educating or ejecting members that refused to correct themselves, shifting from an exclusionist black nationalism line for pan-ethnic collaboration towards socialism (precursor to what Jackson coined "rainbow coalition") and more or less started blooming from a rag-tag team trying to protect their own into a revolutionary party that could compete with CPUSA for the vanguard position of the American proletariat.
