• dinklesplein [any, he/him]
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    3 years ago

    I think it's reductive to try and lump the June 4th Protests under any sort of tendency when it was more a broad umbrella movement that just included everyone who was sort of dissatisfied with Deng, from MZT who thought he was going too far (which is a fair assessment to make, given the events of the intervening decades) to liberals who thought Deng wasn't going far enough and Nationalists who disliked detente with NATO. Because so many tendencies were represented, it's easy for anyone of any political standing to point to x part of the riots and say they stood for y - they sang 'The Internationale', so they must have been true communists, they wanted bourgeois democracy and free markets, so they were liberals, so on and so forth. The TLDR is that it's complicated and the reason why you'll hear so many conflicting opinions on what the June 4th Protests stood for, when the protestors themselves probably didn't even know, making it very easy to project one's own beliefs onto the movement.

      • dinklesplein [any, he/him]
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        3 years ago

        I think it's all goods to speak your mind on a subject, and I don't believe it to be fair to consider yourself as having 'spoken out of place'. It's not reasonable to expect everyone to be perfectly knowledgeable on everything, and I'm sure everybody on this sight knows more about stuff like US labour movements, for instance, so it's cool to share information with fellow comrades.