Sick post, comrade! Thank you for putting this together.
I started with Starting Strength but that community + the dude are reactionaries so I don't like recommending them as much anymore. GSLP looks very similar, even identical to how some people recommend SS.
So two quick Qs:
What's the salient difference between SS and GSLP?
Oh no I mean GLSP vs Starting Strength, which is a 3x5 program with this A/B program:
A: Squat, Bench, Deadlift
B: Squat, Overhead press, Deadlift/Power Clean/Rows (starts as deadlift, eventually other exercises replace it)
It was promoted by Mark Rippetoe, who's chuddy. Starting Strength is an adaptation of it and I'm guessing GLSP is as well. I'm looking for a distinguishing feature so that I can sell it to others (rather than the chud-driven one).
SS is essentially made for skinny 16 year old dudes needing to put on some weight for their specific sport. It's super leg focused and makes you squat three times a week + deadlifts. So your legs are sore all the time, you barely do any upper back workout and you have to learn 3 seriously complex leg movements while progressing rapidly in weight (squat, clean, deadlift).
Again, this is fine if you are lanky as fuck, 16 and want to get into track and field or football or basketball. If you are at any other point in your life, you should absolutely tweak the program and start from something more "gentle", that only has you squat once or twice and actually incorporates some real pulling work.
Also some of Rippetoes queues for the lifts are rather questionable. You don't need to deal with chunky asshole chud and his program. There are plenty of alternatives around.
This is all good advice! I'm still just distracted by GLSP, which looks like it also has squats 3x per week and deadlifts 2-3x per week.
I do tend to tell people to do basically that program with the caveat of starting with the bar alone if they're already strong enough that this is easy for them. If the bar is strenuous then I tell people to do bodyweight squats at first and to alternate inverted rows with deadlift just so that they can control their progression via bodyweight reps at first. My thinking is to focus on sustainable training with reduced injury risk and plenty of time to focus on form before lifting heavy.
Sick post, comrade! Thank you for putting this together.
I started with Starting Strength but that community + the dude are reactionaries so I don't like recommending them as much anymore. GSLP looks very similar, even identical to how some people recommend SS.
So two quick Qs:
What's the salient difference between SS and GSLP?
Is the community / face of GSLP less shitty?
Thanks!
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Oh no I mean GLSP vs Starting Strength, which is a 3x5 program with this A/B program:
A: Squat, Bench, Deadlift
B: Squat, Overhead press, Deadlift/Power Clean/Rows (starts as deadlift, eventually other exercises replace it)
It was promoted by Mark Rippetoe, who's chuddy. Starting Strength is an adaptation of it and I'm guessing GLSP is as well. I'm looking for a distinguishing feature so that I can sell it to others (rather than the chud-driven one).
SS is essentially made for skinny 16 year old dudes needing to put on some weight for their specific sport. It's super leg focused and makes you squat three times a week + deadlifts. So your legs are sore all the time, you barely do any upper back workout and you have to learn 3 seriously complex leg movements while progressing rapidly in weight (squat, clean, deadlift).
Again, this is fine if you are lanky as fuck, 16 and want to get into track and field or football or basketball. If you are at any other point in your life, you should absolutely tweak the program and start from something more "gentle", that only has you squat once or twice and actually incorporates some real pulling work.
Also some of Rippetoes queues for the lifts are rather questionable. You don't need to deal with chunky asshole chud and his program. There are plenty of alternatives around.
This is all good advice! I'm still just distracted by GLSP, which looks like it also has squats 3x per week and deadlifts 2-3x per week.
I do tend to tell people to do basically that program with the caveat of starting with the bar alone if they're already strong enough that this is easy for them. If the bar is strenuous then I tell people to do bodyweight squats at first and to alternate inverted rows with deadlift just so that they can control their progression via bodyweight reps at first. My thinking is to focus on sustainable training with reduced injury risk and plenty of time to focus on form before lifting heavy.