That's not what I'm talking about. SIOC is obviously standard ML theory and I have little issue with the self reliance parts of the Juche ideology. Critical support, of course. The DPRK, whatever critiques I may have of it, does seem to be building Socialism in good faith and under extremely difficult conditions.

And I'm possibly misunderstanding my translations of On the Juche Idea and my collections of Kim Jong Il/ Kim Il Sung's , but that was my take from it. A lot of what western commentators say about it is flat wrong and extreme cope, but it is openly stated that it is further development from ML at least as great as ML was from classical Marxism, and the "Creative potential of the masses as the single driving force of history" is stressed in several works.

Now there's actually stuff in Engles about this happening once the contradictions of labour are fully resolved, about humanity taking control of its fate free of the Tyranny of Nature, and I do think Juche has a lot of interesting ideas about how a society in higher stages of socialism or communism might evolve. But I am skeptical that the DPRK is quite at the stage where it can claim it is ready for that ideological shift.