Debunking NATO propaganda and consent manufacturing means massively massively more than your personal relationships and comfort. I don't want to hear how hard it is to be called a 'shill for Putin'. People should have already been calling you a shill for Assad, for Kim Jong Un, for Xi, for Castro or you have been fucking NEGLIGENT AS LEFTISTS. If you're in the imperial core your primary fucking duty is to anti imperialism. Clearly a lot of you haven't been doing this. Now there are possible nuclear consequences and I see a great deal of you still too fucking chicken shit to stick their necks out for people living under the thumbs of America and NATO. Investigate the situation thoroughly and have an informed, consistent take based in Marxism and historical materialism and then REPEAT IT LOUDLY AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND LET IT BE KNOWN THAT THE WORKERS OF THE WORLD DO NOT STAND FOR THIS. This is supposed to be a board of principled communists, act like it.

Read Combat Liberalism

    • BolsheWitch [she/her, they/them]
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      3 years ago

      Don’t debate if you don’t know enough, just start attacking how much they want to drink human blood. Rant about how they’re cannibals, fart, piss yourself, summon demons inside of their house, fuck it.

      • voice_of_hermes [he/him,any]
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        3 years ago

        Even just be a Socrates. That guy was a fucking bastard. Examine every little corner of their position with a microscope. Ask question of every hazy detail and every justification until they are tired of answering.

        • BolsheWitch [she/her, they/them]
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          3 years ago

          He was such a glorious asshole. I love that the ratfucker chose to drink poison and die rather than just apologize.

          • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
            hexagon
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            3 years ago

            Spamming sources is a major part of a debate. If you can link someone that's already made your argument better, that counts as your argument cause you agree with it. That's like, pretty much why reading theory is good.

        • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
          hexagon
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          3 years ago

          Don't be a Socrates to own people until you really know how to/what you're talking about. Socrates method as a teaching/owning tool only works if you can lead someone along with questions. That shit takes work.

          • voice_of_hermes [he/him,any]
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            3 years ago

            Hmm. Maybe. But I think you can teach people about basic human decency even if you aren't necessarily 100% on the thing they are being indecent about. LOL.

    • Dimmer06 [he/him,comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      You don't really need to read Imperialism to know what to do here. The quickest possible peace is the best outcome. The NATO states do not want a peace, they want to support a nationalist insurgency in Ukraine against a Russian occupation. If you are in a NATO member state, it is your duty to speak against your country's involvement in the conflict.

      This does not imply support for Russian conquest. A ceasefire agreement should be reached immediately so that a proper peace can be established. The point is NATO out and Russia out, not NATO or Russia.

      If someone correctly points out that there will eventually be conflict in Ukraine again, they have correctly identified imperialism. Both Russia and the US/EU/NATO (the "West") want Ukraine to be their zone of control (they want a monopoly in Ukraine) that they can export capital to which will be worked by the Ukrainian proletariat to generate profits for foreign capitalists. Conflict over this region will persist until we establish a global economic order where production is determined not by what is profitable for capitalists, but by what is in the interest of the masses. This new economic order can only be achieved by overthrowing the ruling classes who would have us kill our fellow worker in some far off land for the gain of the capitalist.

      Ultimately for us in the West, we can only actually act against our government, so that is what we should do.