Debunking NATO propaganda and consent manufacturing means massively massively more than your personal relationships and comfort. I don't want to hear how hard it is to be called a 'shill for Putin'. People should have already been calling you a shill for Assad, for Kim Jong Un, for Xi, for Castro or you have been fucking NEGLIGENT AS LEFTISTS. If you're in the imperial core your primary fucking duty is to anti imperialism. Clearly a lot of you haven't been doing this. Now there are possible nuclear consequences and I see a great deal of you still too fucking chicken shit to stick their necks out for people living under the thumbs of America and NATO. Investigate the situation thoroughly and have an informed, consistent take based in Marxism and historical materialism and then REPEAT IT LOUDLY AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND LET IT BE KNOWN THAT THE WORKERS OF THE WORLD DO NOT STAND FOR THIS. This is supposed to be a board of principled communists, act like it.

Read Combat Liberalism

  • Old_Barbarossa [he/him,comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    Nowhere did i support NATO aggression or expansion, so i don't know why you accused me of that.

    You're doing the exact same thing as Westerners who accuse anybody who is anti-NATO of being "putinists"

    Besides, just because the west does imperialism in Ukraine doesn't mean that it's not Imperialism when Russia does the same thing.

    • Petromancy [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      Jesus Christ shut the fuck up Liberal

      :pigpoop:

      You are going to be here whining when “imperialist” DPRK reunites with the South and expels the colonialists. You are going to be whining about “imperialist” China when they reclaim Taipei. You will be whining about “imperialist” Palestine and their allies when they destroy Israel. You are going to be whining about “imperialist” Cuba when they retake Guantanamo.

      Fighting NATO outposts is not the same as imperialism.

        • Petromancy [she/her]
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          3 years ago

          “Legitimate territory that was stolen” who is the irredentist nationalist now?

          The reason why fighting imperialism is good isn’t to restore your sacred lands dipshit. It’s to DESTROY THE EMPIRE. Ukraine is being turned into a fortified base of the empire. Simple as.

          • Old_Barbarossa [he/him,comrade/them]
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            3 years ago

            Did you just completely flip the argument you where makimg because i agreed with you that AES states taking former terrirtory isn't imperialism and didn't fit your made up strawman?

            Besides imperialist nations can, and have many times in history destroyed empire before. They have simply replaced it with another one, wich is 100% Russias intention in this conflict.

              • BolsheWitch [she/her, they/them]
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                3 years ago

                I don’t know much but isn’t russia’s primary goal in this war to destroy Nato as a concept/organisation by exposing their lies and ineptitude

                No Putin doesn’t give a fuck about that. Dude just doesn’t want American nukes in the country next to him.

              • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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                3 years ago

                Saying it's Russians goal seems a bit ambitious. I think they just want the disputed territory and Ukraine to be neutral and fuck off. NATO is showing its whole association to the rest of the world which works for that idea but it's also fanning the flames of NATO support within NATO countries. I doubt that's being seen as a net positive for Putin but that's also kind of a thing there. If he were acting totally based on being an evil oligarch then how does he benefit financially or materially in any personal or national way from this increase in tension? It was probably seen as necessary but risky cause it is.

              • Old_Barbarossa [he/him,comrade/them]
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                3 years ago

                Yes, because Russia isn't doing this to restore full democracy and sovereignty to Ukraine, but simply to bring them under their influence. Russia only opposes NATO because it stands in the way of it's own imperial project. Not out of an ideological opposition to al imperialist actions.

                • BolsheWitch [she/her, they/them]
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                  3 years ago

                  Russia only opposes NATO because it stands in the way of it’s own imperial project

                  Holy fuck the :brainworms: on this one. They don’t want a hostile country to put nukes at their front door. Imagine the response if Mexico entered into a military alliance with China and then the Chinese military put missiles right on the Texan border lol

                  Not out of an ideological opposition to al imperialist actions.

                  Agreed.

                  • Mao_Zedong [comrade/them,none/use name]
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                    3 years ago

                    if Mexico entered into a military alliance with China and then the Chinese military put missiles right on the Texan border lol

                    Or like, the USSR put missiles on Cuba. Luckily these things are mere thought experiments :thinkin-lenin:

            • Petromancy [she/her]
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              3 years ago

              No I have always been consistent. Military resistance against the expansion of the imperialist hegemony is anti-imperialist and based. Always. In all cases. Whether that’s seizing back land they stole or invading to destroy their forward positions or stopping a coup (or reversing one).