The fucking nerve to weaponize that term like this these people have no shame
Give bikers every lane so cars literally have to drive on the margins
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Ahahahahahahahahaha:
“The fundamental issue isn’t with bicycles. The problem is when bike lanes are put in, space is taken from the road not the pavement,” Victorian Automotive Chamber of Commerce CEO Geoff Gwilym said. “The humble car driver is marginalised.”
https://archive.ph/H3Ej7
Edit - Archive is being troublesome today but I promise that link worked a minute ago.
From the mayor's defense of the lanes: https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/growth-of-cbd-bike-lanes-a-divisive-issue-for-city-commuters-20220304-p5a1w8.html
When people do drive into the city, the majority park in one of the more than 140,000 private, off-street, multi-storey car-parking spaces that are available in our city. In fact, if you’re in the CBD, you are never more than 200 metres away from a secure off-street car-park.
In total, there are 23,000 on-street parking spaces managed by the City of Melbourne. We have removed 421 of those to make way for protected bike lanes.
Chuds: 1.8% of street parking spaces are gone!!! :frothingfash: The humble car driver is marginalized!
Yep. When I was searching for more info I found a transcript from a radio host saying that "no one" bikes into the city because everyone lives in the outer suburbs, 15-20 kilometers away. (Which, by bike, would still be less than the 65 minute average commute time.) Then I searched density statistics and saw that although there's suburban sprawl, Melbourne, and its central business district, contain the most densely populated areas in Australia.
Stayed with a family friend in Brunswick. We got drunk and he laughed at me for not having a car. Next morning he's walking out with a bike helmet on. "Mate, I'm not paying for parking."
These people have baby brains and only care about things placed right in front of them. Bike lanes are visible.
Babys develop the concept of object permanence which apparently many motorists do not, seeing how we're still dealing with bikes, pedestrians, hell, even other cars "coming out of nowhere"
lol “The humble car driver is marginalised" is exactly what I would put to print if I wanted to signal to my peers that I desperately needed my ass kicked
The thing that stuck with me in the wtyp pod on vehicular cycling was how the city of Davis, CA built an actually good biking infrastructure, and rideshare rates for bikes there was comparable to the Netherlands after that. People like bikes and will use them, but you need to build the proper infrastructure first. Americans (and presumably Aussies) will say "people like cars not bikes" but of course people don't ride bikes without good infrastructure. Riding around a US city feels like a death wish, I don't blame Americans for not biking as things are now.
i live in a small US city that, relative to the US, is super bike friendly. that means there's an unprotected, skinny bike lane for about 30% of my commute and only one absolutely batshit, terrifying death trap on the route.
Ironically, high quality segregated bicycle infrastructure makes it better to drive, anyway. More cyclists means less car traffic.
and in my (american) city, i have to bike in the rightmost traffic lane half the time (vs a space designated for cycling) and basically jusr pray that no ones going to mow me down (and btw ive already been hit by a car, while on my bicycle…. fully following traffic laws and such. TWICE)
tbh I actually did get hit by a car once on a bike
it was a block away from home and there was a very cute girl at the wheel who was very apologetic :soviet-bashful:
nobody was hurt and my dad was surprised to see me bring a girl home
The only criticism I have of bike lanes is that without a coherent overall transit strategy, they unfairly disadvantage people for whom biking is infeasible (like the elderly or disabled). However, if you have the option of taking a bus, train, or bike, and you're still bitching that it makes it harder to drive, then that's a choice you're making. I'm a staunch supporter of the universal right to complain about things, but that doesn't mean anyone has to listen or care.
I hope they build more bike lanes just to inconvenience motorists. I hope the motorists cry and shit their pants about it. That would be funny and good.
elderly people cycle all the time in the netherlands. so do the disabled .
I wasn't being inclusive of all elderly or disabled people, I was just giving examples of types of people who may find cycling infeasible or impossible. Not everyone can bike, period, which is why we need an holistic approach to transit, which includes buses, trains, taxis, and creating walkable neighborhoods with comprehensive amenities and services.
There is nobody I hate more as a group than motorists
i want to ride my bicycle
i want to ride my bike
i want to ride my bicycle
i want to ride it
where i like
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