This probably isn't groundbreaking but at its core, Trump's message was & is 'Yeah things are shit and you can blame <immigrants/liberals/the deep state/communists/black people>'. Biden's message is 'Things aren't really that shit and if you're struggling it's your own fault, let's go back to how things were five years ago when you were also struggling'.

How is that gonna get anyone who can't afford rent/doesn't have medical insurance/struggles to feed their kids to change their votes? Trump won't make things better but at least he's lying to them that he's gonna help. Biden can't even go to that much effort. Not to be a lib but Bernie would have been a much better candidate because his pitch was 'Things are shit and it's not your fault, you've been exploited by capitalists billionaires.'

Short version: Trump is blaming the wrong people, Biden is pretending there isn't a problem. Neither of them will fix things. Electoralism is a fuck.

  • QuillQuote [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    Short version: Trump is blaming the wrong people, Biden is pretending there isn’t a problem. Neither of them will fix things. Electoralism is a fuck.

    damn, well said!

  • DasKarlBarx [he/him,comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    An anecdotal story from me:

    One of my best friends dad is a republican. They voted trump the first go around and mostly watch Fox news.

    During the primary my friend always talked about how his dad's favorite candidate for the Dems was Biden. Hated Bernie. Blah blah blah. I kept telling my friend it doesn't matter he'll still vote for Trump in the end, even though he's had nothing but nonstop criticism of Trump the last 4 years.

    Jump to yesterday and I asked my friend if his dad was voting for Biden and he said "No, my dad thinks if Biden wins he'll destroy America".

    In short, the never trump strategy was always stupid because they don't really exist.

    • BigWetSon [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Spot on, libs that truly think that a critical mass of "moderate" conservatives are going to switch from Trump to Biden are typically living in bubbles in deep blue areas of the country where local conservatives will play lip service to "moderate" dems to seem more reasonable. Your anecdote reminds me so much of 2004, I lived in a somewhat conservative area and I cant remember the number of repubs that would do the exact same thing but still voted for W again, and voted for Mccaine four years later.

  • GOLDENPONYboy [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    It has nothing to do with messaging at this point. Trumps base is Trumps base, they aren't leaving him until this is over. A democrat could come out and say were implementing a new holocaust for immigrants. They'd still vote for Trump. On the other side is the liberals who want Trump out. They'll vote and support anyone to get Trump out. They'd take Cheney at this point. The messaging is just theatre.

  • Dear_Occupant [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Running the campaign from 2016 with the candidate from the 90s during a global pandemic with mass unemployment along with a looming mass eviction is so aggressively out of touch that I refuse to believe it's an accident.