It just feels difficult to have meaningful conversations on here sometimes. Like yes I dislike America, but I don't need to act like nothing good has ever come out of it. Maybe China is better than America, but I don't want Xi nuking American cities. I don't think war is suddenly cool and good because Ukraine has some nazis in it. Not everyone I disagree with is some bumbling mass of idiocy, a lot of times we just differ on certain core values.

  • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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    3 years ago

    Like any online left space this place is absolutely overflowing with bad faith

    Isn't this also a bad faith argument?

    • CopsDyingIsGood [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      No because I genuinely believe it, and it's obvious if you've used this site for more than 10 minutes

      • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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        3 years ago

        Actually it's not obvious, and just so I get this straight, you believe the majority of leftists online are operating from a position of bad faith?

        • CopsDyingIsGood [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Yes. Any disagreement from the consensus is virulently shit on immediately, whether legitimate or not. Most of the time that's not a big deal bc it's just lib/chuds wreckers getting dunked on. But both here and on the old sub, leftists with legitimate disagreement that could lead to actually educational, valuable discussions are shut down just as if they were a chud. If you haven't seen this happen here you either don't post that much, which I envy, or you're pretending it's not a common problem to get a rise out of me

          • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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            3 years ago

            I post here all the time, been here since the site was 4 days old, haven't seen anything like you describe

            If you're not an obvious troll you get a shot here, it's that simple, site has had four serious sitewide struggle sessions in its history, one of them was about veganism lol

            Compared to reddit that's miraculous, like I said in another comment; if you lost a debate in some dead thread, take your L’s and move on, shit is not that serious