Basically on a global scale, the only way to cope is to assume China is actually doing third world Maoism born from dengism, whereby China having the means of production in their country, after the west gave it to them under Deng, will allow them to indirectly redistribute wealth from the west to China. And China will share this wealth through the belt and road initiative.
And that this indirect wealth distribution from the core to the global south will allow China and the global south to build their own wealth to the point where the west no longer has leverage, or conditions deteriorate in the west to that point, or both. Then leftist thought might be viable as a mainstream position in the west, as the workers will no longer enjoy the same advantage over the rest of the world as they did before.
That's not to say working conditions aren't fucked in the west, they certainly are, but treats seem to be enough to keep the lid on the pot for now.
Yeah, it's pretty much a form of coping in a way. I think I edited my initial reply to your post with a much longer explanation of this. But it's the only way I can see communism going further than a few AES states, a minimisation or solving of the contradiction in terms of global wealth distribution.
i honestly think said collapse may be faster than most historical ones thanks to mass dementia from covid combined with mass starvation from climate famines and flooding, we will absolutely see it in our lifetimes but it will be horrifying.
if by "socialist rebuid" you mean complete control over the entire planet, yeah, but if by "socialist rebuild" you mean socialist societies existing in the United States it could be as soon as 20 years if balkanizing is the future in store for us
it's not optimistic to say people might build communes of 20 farmers in a place after a collapsed state. it would be optimistic to say they would live a happy life free of conflict with the forces of capital though
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Basically on a global scale, the only way to cope is to assume China is actually doing third world Maoism born from dengism, whereby China having the means of production in their country, after the west gave it to them under Deng, will allow them to indirectly redistribute wealth from the west to China. And China will share this wealth through the belt and road initiative.
And that this indirect wealth distribution from the core to the global south will allow China and the global south to build their own wealth to the point where the west no longer has leverage, or conditions deteriorate in the west to that point, or both. Then leftist thought might be viable as a mainstream position in the west, as the workers will no longer enjoy the same advantage over the rest of the world as they did before.
That's not to say working conditions aren't fucked in the west, they certainly are, but treats seem to be enough to keep the lid on the pot for now.
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Yeah, it's pretty much a form of coping in a way. I think I edited my initial reply to your post with a much longer explanation of this. But it's the only way I can see communism going further than a few AES states, a minimisation or solving of the contradiction in terms of global wealth distribution.
i honestly think said collapse may be faster than most historical ones thanks to mass dementia from covid combined with mass starvation from climate famines and flooding, we will absolutely see it in our lifetimes but it will be horrifying.
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if by "socialist rebuid" you mean complete control over the entire planet, yeah, but if by "socialist rebuild" you mean socialist societies existing in the United States it could be as soon as 20 years if balkanizing is the future in store for us
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it's not optimistic to say people might build communes of 20 farmers in a place after a collapsed state. it would be optimistic to say they would live a happy life free of conflict with the forces of capital though
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