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  • SeventyTwoTrillion [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    You’re deciding that because the media and internet, both completely astroturfed to convince you to not even fucking bother

    :this:

    The most compelling antidote to doomerism I've seen is that, to be cliche, that's what they want you to think. If things were truly hopeless, and the world was truly locked in and all possible futures led to a monumental collapse of any class warfare of proletarians vs bourgeoisie, and we were doomed to a thousand years of fascist misery, then there would be no reason to keep this level of propaganda up. The media, as a totality, doesn't make that much money compared to other capitalist ventures and so its main purpose isn't to generate profit (paywalls and buying newspapers aside) but to control the narrative to ensure people don't rebel, and so would be culled by the very algorithm of capitalism that got us here if it was deemed unnecessary.

    The point of propaganda warfare is to both convince the average person that things are good and fine (AKA :pinker:), and to convince those who may want to change things that change is impossible, that people are selfish, that revolution and class warfare are things of the past, and all-around not worth the effort. The second part is what fuels almost all the doomerism people have, as far as I can tell. You're smart enough to know that capitalism is a massively detrimental economic structure for billions of people and that communism is an inspiring alternative that will end widespread suffering, and smart enough to know that things are not fine, but then arbitrarily stop your counter-analysis when the media says "and it's impossible to change the way things are, so don't bother trying".

    Capitalism and fascism are unstable systems that require an immense and constant amount of force, violence, and money to maintain. If there is deterioration of the kind that we're seeing right now as the West decays, and therefore a substantial weakening of the propaganda, then we won't go from an unstable system to another unstable system, at least not on any large scale either spatially or temporarily, we'd go to a more stable system; i.e. socialism and communism. Besides, as you say, the US did not even remotely cull the Nazis. They were propelled into all sorts of powerful positions. We're already in a quasi-fascistic regime, they've just realized that you can't do the whole death camp thing until it's strictly necessary and so held off on the worst parts while maintaining many of the Nazi's strategies. Where would we go from here - an explicitly even more fascist system that will collapse even faster as the contradictions accelerate? Rock bottom isn't much deeper; we have a lot we can win.