There's consistently been a bit of tacit support for a Russian victory in the megathread here. While this is presented in terms of hoping it ends soon, it sometimes crosses into giving the Russian army the benefit of the doubt with regard to civilian deaths and other unsavory things as well as focusing only on Russia's geopolitical justifications for the war.
I know it's fucking exhausting to have to declare your disavowal of Putin before saying anything and that everywhere else is whole-hog into the NATO version of things, but it's important to take a moment every now and then to remember that this is still an awful thing and not to get too caught up in contrarianism.
You make good points. I still can't agree that this is a good thing, but it is the "natural" result of encirclement. The thing I'll most disagree with and push back on is ordinary Ukrainians. They don't deserve any of this.
There's consistently been a bit of tacit support for a Russian victory in the megathread here. While this is presented in terms of hoping it ends soon, it sometimes crosses into giving the Russian army the benefit of the doubt with regard to civilian deaths and other unsavory things as well as focusing only on Russia's geopolitical justifications for the war.
I know it's fucking exhausting to have to declare your disavowal of Putin before saying anything and that everywhere else is whole-hog into the NATO version of things, but it's important to take a moment every now and then to remember that this is still an awful thing and not to get too caught up in contrarianism.
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You make good points. I still can't agree that this is a good thing, but it is the "natural" result of encirclement. The thing I'll most disagree with and push back on is ordinary Ukrainians. They don't deserve any of this.