• Thomas_Dankara [any,comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    This is now an early christianity history thread

    oldest 6 depictions of jesus

    information on when each of the gospels were written, by whom, in what language, targeting what demographic, and what the earliest fragments we have found are as of 2016

    I think it is telling that the possibly earliest gospel, is also the only one not considered canonical by the church. I also think it is telling that the gospel of Thomas is merely a collection of sayings, and point to an oral tradition. I also find it is telling that all of the gospels are either apocalyptic in their vision or possibly apocalyptic, while thomas is just chilling.

    • ThisMachinePostsHog [they/them, he/him]
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      3 years ago

      That first depiction of Jesus, "Alexameno's Graffito" is interesting af. I read a little about it, and it seems like it was engraved in a boarding school that got walled off for centuries.

      In one room, somebody inscribed "Alexameno is faithful," or something to that effect. Then, in a different room, somebody drew Jesus with the head of a donkey being crucified, and a worshipper venerating him. Underneath is written, "Alexameno worships his god." This could've been to make fun of the other kid who wrote the first graffiti. I just thought that was super interesting.

    • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      That 6th portrait ( Christ Pantocrator, 6th century ), is basically how I look like right now lol.

      Cool stuff though

    • Mardoniush [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      Thomas (while fascinating and arguably the only book that should have been kept in the Bible.) isn't the earliest Gospel, the 40CE date is where some of the Sayings in the book may date from. I don't think I've read anyone who claimed a date before 100CE for Thomas as a complete work, even proponents of it as a majority early text or a branch off of Q.

      Also, I'm not sure you can say Mark or the Q source doesn't have the same early date, if the initial origin of the individual sayings or parables within is the metric used.

      Finally wherever that's from they're wrong about Matthew, pretty sure P64/67 predates P37, admittedly dating is controversial, but dates range from 66AD to 250AD.

      • Thomas_Dankara [any,comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        Finally wherever that’s from they’re wrong about Matthew, pretty sure P64/67 predates P37, admittedly dating is controversial, but dates range from 66AD to 250AD.

        the image is from 2016 and maybe the scholarship has changed since then.