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    • Carguacountii [none/use name]
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      Something that a teacher advertises publicly is the public's business.

      I think if they're writing books with that kind of material, then yes - I'd fire nabakov immediately for example (at the least). With the 90s gangster rap, it depends on the content. With the guns, it depends on what kind of related material they were publically releasing.

      Some of your other examples are too petulant and silly to respond to.

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        • CarmineCatboy2 [he/him]
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          What people do in their free time is their own choice.

          Let me put this in the simplest way possible. The second you focus your energies on defending teachers' rights to do online porn, you have ceded the entirety of discourse surrounding the Education System to the conservative right at best, and the fascist right at worst. You will be exiled to the fringes of society by the parents themselves.

          Sometimes it's not about Libertad, Carajo.

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            • CarmineCatboy2 [he/him]
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              If your response to hearing a teacher has an OF is "they should get fired" then you suck.

              Was that what I wrote?

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          • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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            You will be exiled to the fringes of society by the parents themselves.

            Picking your battles is important. A teacher doing OnlyFans is a great example of something that's defensible but very much not a hill to die on.

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        • Carguacountii [none/use name]
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          Well we should think of the children, its important socially.

          You've said elsewhere that you'd be concerned if a teacher were a facist - would you not mind if they were teaching to the cirriculum at school, but in their time off work publically promoting fascist material? I don't mean to conflate the two subjects (fascism and pornography), but just point out that we don't (and shouldn't) judge teachers just on what they do at school. Of course, then it becomes a question of what is and isn't acceptable for a teacher to be doing in public outside of work, and I don't think its moral panic to say that pornography is not acceptable - sex education and teaching about relationships is very sensitive as a subject for people because as I've said there's a great potential for harm and exploitation.

          We should assume good faith until demonstrated otherwise of course. You don't think your pepsi coke thing was silly?

        • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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          What if the teacher drinks pepsi, but this is a coke town?

          Oh I thought we were supposed to assume good faith

          This is some real smuglord shit

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            • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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              We shouldn't interact with each other the way we interact with chuds.

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                • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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                  How do you expect to get anything done if you call other people on your small leftist forum chuds because you disagree on one thing despite agreeing on 99 others? You know there will be plenty of other leftists who disagree with you on this or that, right?

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      • Rom [he/him]
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        I think if they're writing books with that kind of material, then yes - I'd fire nabakov immediately for example

        If you think Lolita was condoning its subject matter then you completely misunderstood the entire message of the book. This is why we need media literacy.

        • Carguacountii [none/use name]
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          Fans of that book, or the literati, always say that, and yet its very popular with child abusers. No doubt there are those who read it and were disgusted. Most people however don't need an elaborate fantasy novel to tell them that kind of thing is very very bad.

          If I've misunderstood the message, and others have too (it isn't generally well liked, except in certain circles, usually called at least 'controversial'), then we can be sure that anyone writing such material shouldn't be a teacher, and certainly children shouldn't be exposed to it - and the way communities work, children at such a teacher's school would be well aware of any controversial publications they might have made. Personally, I think it is a literary trick (like the 'poverty porn' genre) to justify the promotion of dodgy material to a certain class for titilation, so I'd do a lot more than sack such an author.

          • Sphere [he/him, they/them]
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            If I've misunderstood the message, and others have too (it isn't generally well liked, except in certain circles, usually called at least 'controversial'), then we can be sure that anyone writing such material shouldn't be a teacher, and certainly children shouldn't be exposed to it

            Um, what? This logic could be applied to critical race theory about as easily as you've applied it here to Lolita. Way to prove that you really are a puritan.

              • Sphere [he/him, they/them]
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                So, writing anything that multiple people misunderstand and find offensive, especially if it can be called 'controversial,' is an automatic disqualification from teaching, got it. Makes perfect sense, and I'm not at all deeply disappointed to see multiple hexbears upvote this horrifically bad take.

                • Carguacountii [none/use name]
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                  Not anything, but certainly something about child abuse, when, and I can't emphasise this enough, you're responsible for teaching children is certainly an auto disqualification.

                  • Rom [he/him]
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                    So if someone says "child abuse is bad" they should be banned from teaching, because they said something about child abuse, do I have this right?

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        I’d fire nabakov immediately for example (at the least)

        You didn't read it, did you?

        And I'm not saying it's a good book because it isn't.