First of all, animals should not be used for work because :im-vegan: . But having said that... I see how human labor creates surplus value. And I think I understand why machines don't create surplus value. But what about animals that get exploited to perform work, say the mule that pulls a plow? Like humans, they require a "real wage" to sustain them i.e. food, shelter, and medical attention, right? And if the value of labor power of a day of a mule is say 2 hours (that's how much human labor is invovlved in making feed, etc), then if this mule works for more than 2 hours, are they not creating surplus value for the capitalist that claims to own them?

  • comi [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    They are either weird-ish means of production or labor, depending on your bend. For Marx means of production definitely.

    Same argument about not utilizing full labor time of means of production can be made towards any industrial equipment - if it stays still, it doesn’t work and doesn’t transfer value.