First of all, animals should not be used for work because :im-vegan: . But having said that... I see how human labor creates surplus value. And I think I understand why machines don't create surplus value. But what about animals that get exploited to perform work, say the mule that pulls a plow? Like humans, they require a "real wage" to sustain them i.e. food, shelter, and medical attention, right? And if the value of labor power of a day of a mule is say 2 hours (that's how much human labor is invovlved in making feed, etc), then if this mule works for more than 2 hours, are they not creating surplus value for the capitalist that claims to own them?

  • Malagueta [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    Yes, in part due to industrial honey bees and the pathogens / diseases they tend to carry.

    • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      also because of pesticides. Basically agrarian capitalism and it's mistreatment of bees is making a serious go of killing us all