Biden is neoliberal (neocon?) war criminal and has been since before he even became Vice President. But let's really not be the "actually Trump 2024 is good actually compared to Biden" people. It's not only a bad look, it doesn't reflect our beliefs or principles.

Maybe the couple posts I've seen about this is :fedposting: but Trump is also a fascist and was doing heinous shit with his power too. Not to mention he'd use the post to pogrom trans people. And all of nakedly fascist stuff he did to suppress the 2020 BLM movement (unmarked feds disappearing people in vans??? Thumping a bible on the steps of the capitol while Feds teargassed protestors???)

Fuck Biden and Fuck Trump and fuck anyone who tries to carry water for either of them.

  • TechnologyMoth [comrade/them,any]
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    3 years ago

    I would argue that the BLM protests would have been much less likely to happen, since libs/radlibs that made up a large part of the mass would have felt much more complacent. Just saw your comment below, seems like you also have this belief.

    • Awoo [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      Yes. Liberal mobilisation played a big part in that, ok so they also tried to coopt it and deradicalise it too but they played a big part in the noise, the promotion and the bubbling of anger.

      The best point I think I have to make here is do you want liberals to be fighting the gov because they correctly think it's fascist or do you want them complacent? Red fascism and blue fascism don't matter but liberals only recognise red as fascism and react appropriately in a way that legitimately helps us and our goals.

      • TechnologyMoth [comrade/them,any]
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        3 years ago

        I dont have opinions anymore about who should be president, but yeah that argument has been pretty well debated.

        Most liberals I know went as far as to read a book by a black author and order some take out from a black owned business and shut down at the discussion of dismantling systems of oppression. it was very sad. For a lot of us it felt like it was finally time we would be heard and believed but alas.

        • Awoo [she/her]
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          3 years ago

          It's an important learning moment for the collective. People need to remember it next time, take their energy but do not let them lead and do not expect them to stick around unless they make real ideological commitments to drop liberalism. The conscious choice to drop the label of liberal and take the label of socialist is the true first step that rips most of these people out of that space but they're still a mess if they don't get a re-education from Fanon, Settlers, and other things.