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  • ssjmarx [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    No Real Life Examples, Please! While treatment of slaves varied somewhat throughout history and there likely were some slave owners who could be considered benevolent, we are not here to discuss the morality of historical people and societies, especially since we have no way of asking the slaves how they really felt about their owners.

    TVTropes just doesn't hit the same since they hollowed themselves out in order to attract advertisers.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      we have no way of asking the slaves how they really felt about their owners.

      There's absolutely no historical record of how slaves felt about being enslaved. None. :galaxy-brain:

      • Lundi [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        slavery might be awful, it might not u never no. how would u? it's not like u can fone them

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          We must conclude with logic and reason that slavery had upsides and downsides and was equally right and wrong. :very-intelligent:

      • doctorb [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        Thank goodness the New Deal didn't have an entire wing devoted to recording the oral histories of every surviving former slave in the 1930s

      • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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        2 years ago

        Fredrick Douglas was an Anti-Southern French-sponsored Propagandist.

        Four Pinocchios.

  • Alex_Jones [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    :yikes:

    But it's just such a shame that they can't talk about the flaws about this trope. Only what the trope is.

    Just talking about the problem instead of investigating it and putting value judgments. Forget about societal effects of a trope or talking about solutions.

    TV tropes needs a Citations Needed episode

    • Omega_Haxors [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      A racist, a transphobe and an anti-Semite walk into a bar.

      The bartender looks up and says "Hey, aren't you that girl who wrote Harry Potter?"

  • Lundi [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    12 years a slave comes to mind, benedict cucumber plays the ' benevolent 'slave owner. perfect role for the lib

    • RowPin [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      Great film and exactly who I thought of. The way where he watches Solomon in that lynching scene until he can come in at the last second and swoop dramatically to cut him free is perfect liberal.

      SOLOMON: Master Ford is a decent man.

      ELIZA: He is a slaver.

      SOLOMON: Under the circumstances--

      ELIZA: Under the circumstances he is a slaver! Christian only in his proclamations. Separated me from my precious babies for lack of a few dollars. But you truckle at his boot -- you luxuriate in his favor.

      SOLOMON: I survive! I will not fall into despair. I will offer up my talents to Master Ford. I will keep myself hearty until freedom is opportune.

      ELIZA: Ford is your opportunity. Do you think he does not know that you are more than you suggest? But he does nothing for you. Nothing. You are no better than prized livestock. Call for him. Call, tell him of your previous circumstances and see what it earns you... Solomon.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      2 years ago

      The best parts of Django Unchained involved pillorying the trope shortly before the movie pilloried the characters.