We've all heard of the Bechdel test. I know it's not a cure-all to sexism and hidden patriarchy, but it is a good question to ask as a writer.

For those who don't know, the original "Bechdel test" posited that 99% of movies don't have two female characters talking to each other about something other than a male. Basically that women in fiction usually exists just to further the plot of male characters.

My novel is first person PoV of a middle school boy and he's part of a trio with two other teenage girls (these are the main 3 characters). But because he is the only PoV, it can never pass "the Bechdel test." Otherwise, I think I've made the other two main characters fairly fleshed out characters.

  • StuporTrooper [he/him]
    hexagon
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    3 years ago

    I'm probably getting too technical on the definition, but I understood it to be two (or more) women talking without the presence of men.

    This also might be irrelevant since I'm thinking of giving them each a PoV chapter.

    • comi [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Meh, the idea is to show them as human beans with their own interests unrelated to men :shrug-outta-hecks:

      • StuporTrooper [he/him]
        hexagon
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        3 years ago

        Right, the spirit of the rule rather than the letter of the law.

    • Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      I thought the Bechdel test was two named female characters talking to each other about something that isn't a man

      • EnsignRedshirt [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Yeah, my recollection is that it came from the fact that a lot of the time, even when a scene had nothing but women, the overwhelming majority of those scenes were just an excuse for the women to talk about one or more of the male characters. The Bechdel test is about asking the question "are these female characters actually real characters, or are they just props?"

    • swampfox [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      I feel like if you really wanted to you could resolve this by either having a written/recorded exchange (thus escaping the dilemma temporally) between the two women or you could have some intentional/unintentional eavesdropping.

      • StuporTrooper [he/him]
        hexagon
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        3 years ago

        There's some unintentional eavesdropping already, I pretty frequently have the Protagonist walk into a heated exchange between the other two, which they quickly hush to resolve.