The wealthy can avoid paying taxes, squirrel their way out of trouble and buy influence with their fat stacks of cash, and poor people can... "live off welfare". It all evens out! :big-cool:
In the same conversation he also expressed the opinion that day-fines were the greatest injustice in the world (his dad had been caught speeding)
“live off welfare”.
The Regan administration's welfare queen myth narrative has done so much damage to poor people. They absolutely knew what they were doing with that one now that welfare is next to impossible to get on today and what you do get is peanuts compared to a 9-5 job, just subsistence level.
They push this welfare and grant abuse narrative in South Africa too even though the majority of grant recipients are children, the disabled and pensioners. People that literally cannot work.
I've had multiple chuds say to me that poor people only have babies to get more grants and that's why Bill Gates style eugenics is good actually™
Here in the USA the myth is that it's black women with multiple children when in reality iirc it's actually single white mothers who're on it. You know who works low paying fast food jobs? Black single mothers.
Yeah I added a paragraph to describe the SA situation. The right wing media will run a story about a woman having 5 kids and saying she's doing it to get more grants and spend the money on day drinking. Racism also often always involved, and Churchill and Bill Gates style eugenics, uhh sorry "family planning" implied.
The US situation reminds me of that "Trump is not hurting the right people" comment. People so heavily propagandised they'd give up their own benefits because they're told it will bring someone else down.
China one child cringe!
South Africa
eugenicsfamily planning based!?Edit: “Trump is not hurting the right people” comment.
The Trumpist-Joe-Roganist conception of the state is such that it hurts the right people.
Yeah that's the average chud mindset. Pretty much sounding like how Churchill talked about Indian people.
Yeah the state only exist for right wingers to brutalise the poor, minorities and marginalised. But surely if you fall into one of those groups, you must be able to realise that one day the state will come for you too. Don't they use a famous anti-Nazi poem to convey this in the US, the "first they came for" one.
But I guess your average chud is always a "temporarily embarrassed millionaire" in their own conception of themselves, regardless of circumstances and reality.
at least the msm is at long last losing public trust so maybe such dangerous rhetoric won't obtain as much purchase going forward.
I'm not thrilled by a lot of what's replacing it. :jordan-eboy-peterson: :charlie-kirk: :shapiro-gavel:
Yeah - I think that is sadly the role that the far right has been designated to play. They house all the people who have become disgusted with MSM and lead them to a dead end. One hand washes the other.
I've heard pretty much exactly that out loud, offline, and in public. "You can't trust the mainstream media... JOE ROGAN knows what's up!" :so-true:
Liberals unironically believe that a single mother shoplifting a loaf of bread is exactly as egregious as a Big Oil CEO lobbying for a war so he can become slightly wealthier.
he also expressed the opinion that day-fines were the greatest injustice in the world (his dad had been caught speeding)
fuckers can pay to break the law and they're still complaining
Didn't know what day fines were until now but they sound kinda based
Finland also uses day fines and I can confirm that speeding tickets especially make porkies big mad
Edit: lol, from the linked Wikipedia article:
There is no maximum day-fine which may lead to considerably high fines for high-income persons. For example, in 2001, a Finnish businessman with a yearly income of 10 million euros, received a relatively mild punishment of six day-fines, amounting €26,000, for driving though a red traffic light.[16][17] In 2009 a businessman was fined €112,000 for travelling at 82 kilometres per hour in an area with a speed limit of 60 kilometres per hour.[18] In 2019, Maarit Toivanen, a business executive, was fined €74,000 for driving at 112 kilometres per hour (70 mph) in a 80 kilometres per hour (50 mph) speed limit area.[19] As speeding is punished with a petty fine if the offender is exceeding the speed limit by up to 20 km/h, but with a day-fine if exceeding the limit by 21 km/h or more, the monetary amount of the fine can increase from €115 to over €100,000 although the actual change in speed is less than 1 km/h This has given rise to some criticism, most vividly expressed by a Finnish member of parliament, avid motorist Klaus Bremer and other MPs of right-wing parties. 20]
:michael-laugh: :michael-laugh: :michael-laugh:
Lmaooo
Critical support to Finland here. But only this once
Mr. Musk, it seems your license plates have expired. That'll be 5 million dollars
I've heard the same thing from affluent college peers that went off to make tech oligarchs richer. They seriously believed that affirmative action was "at least as bad if not worse" than anything the rich do. :bootlicker:
he also expressed the opinion that day-fines were the greatest injustice in the world
Tell me you’ve never experienced a single thing without telling me you’ve never experienced a single thing
"My dad has to pay more than some guy with less money for literally the same crime just because he happens to be wealthy! Everyone should be equal under the law!"
:jokerfication:
“The law, in its majestic equality, forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal their bread.”
:so-true:
I'm not sure there's any point in even talking to people like this.
:wall-talk:
I didn't. I'm pretty sure I was stabbing myself in the thigh with a fork the whole time I had to sit there :agony-shivering:
Came here to make sure someone referenced the Anatole quote and I stand here, severely disappointed in everyone involved.
Anatole France "The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread."
Yeah, the R350 (I think that's like 25USD) the government gave the unemployed per month during COVID 19 is definitely equivalent to the millions that tender entrepreneurs launder from the government though private-public partnerships and corrupt tenders. Both definitely the same. Very cool and normal mindset from that rich kid.
:galaxy-brain:
My boss once sat me down and said that the world was all about balance, which is why I need to know my place in the middle class with him. "We're the balance against the poor, against the rich. Both try to screw us over." He's got a net worth of millions. He claims to have voted for Carter, then Ted Cruz. One time he described himself to me as a socialist. Once said he ran a socialist business. Also he uses the term "Bolshevik" occasionally to mean any Russian or Slav (in a negative way). He saw me reading a Nabokov book on my lunchbreak once and said it sounded like a "Bolshevik" name.
A kid I knew in college with a rich dad said society could be mended if the poor used themselves as medical experiments to drive down the cost of prescription drugs.
One time he told me rich people have it harder than the poor, because rich people have to choose workers to hire and some of them could be lazy or thieves.
"Being a slaveowner is at least as hard as being a slave. Some slaves can be uppity." :brainworms:
"Being a prison guard is at least as hard as being a prisoner. Sometimes there's shivs or spitting." :brainworms:
“We’re the balance against the poor, against the rich. Both try to screw us over.”
:brainworms:
Ah yes the poor trying to screw them over by
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trying to obtain a basic standard of living.
What's up with libs and "both sides" or "zero difference between good and bad things"
Such a nonsensical attitude but it's everywhere
And libs get so smug about it too
False equivalencies are used to justify pretty much anything bad, especially if it's a bad thing that a liberal is defensive about.
It's effective, so they keep using it.
They want to continue doing bad things and if other people are doing bad things, then they don't have to do anything to change.
It's why libs hate anyone to their left. Reminding them of the reality of their evil by just existing.
