https://hexbear.net/post/1871701

Here's a beautiful turn of words I also saved.

Your conspiracy falls apart when you look at Chelsea Manning, she was sentenced to 35 years, got the government to pay for her transition, her sentence was commuted after 7 years, and she went on to cuckole Elon Musk.

CW: SA

spoiler

Assange raped two women, used his propaganda outlet to push conspiracy theories and hid in the only embassy that would take him. Later he was kicked out of the Ecuadorian embassy for using it to collude with Russia to influence the US election.

  • davel [he/him]
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    4 months ago

    I saw that gish gallop thread and kinda wanted to respond but didn’t have the energy. Another mod has zapped it since then. They also got a two week ban, so you won’t be getting the rebuttal you requested.

    • Lemmygradwontallowme [he/him, comrade/them]
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      4 months ago

      Don't worry, I have saved his words... don't shoot the messenger, mods, but dunk the message down to hell...

      Comment 1:

      Remember the US did not seek extradition for the 2013 leaks he coursed Chelsey manning into getting him, it wasn't until he conspired with Russia to interfere in the 2016 election that the US decided to seek extradition.

      Page 44 of the Muller Report In order to expand its interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election, the GRU units transferred many of the documents they stole from the DNC and the chairman of the Clinton Campaign to WikiLeaks. GRU officers used both the DCLeaks and Guccifer 2.0 personas to communicate with WikiLeaks through Twitter private messaging and through encrypted channels, including possibly through WikiLeaks’s private communication system.

      Edit: Apparently this the link https://www.justice.gov/archives/sco/file/1373816/download

      https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/15/politics/assange-embassy-exclusive-documents/index.html Despite being confined to the embassy while seeking safe passage to Ecuador, Assange met with Russians and world-class hackers at critical moments, frequently for hours at a time. He also acquired powerful new computing and network hardware to facilitate data transfers just weeks before WikiLeaks received hacked materials from Russian operatives.

  • Wheaties [comrade/them]
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    4 months ago

    nothing Liberals love more than getting to be Technically Correct at the same time as acting more Nationalist than your Alex Jones watching uncle. They'll atomize everything they claim to hold dear -- a "free" press, the so called "international community", even the humanitarian ideals they swear it's all in service of. The Liberal will crush it all beneath their heel without a second thought, if they think it means they get to be Right while standing up for the good ol' US of A. Your dyed blue, truly irredeemable Liberal will look you in the eye, smile and laugh and agree with you. Then they'll go home and draft a letter to the FBI, to feel the flush of patriotism burn within their breast.

  • DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml
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    4 months ago

    I wonder how many of these lemmy instances have a big fed presence. I imagine that since the big reddit exodus a lot of fed accounts were made there too.

    I know we like to joke about people being feds, but I do honestly wonder how many of these places have feds actively trying to control the narrative, and how many there are, and how much work is required in doing that. How do they operate? I feel like at some point, they don't need to do much more than prodding, that the average lemmy lib will say what the feds want them to without and direct influence at all.

    I would say that the fed presence here and on lemmygrad is probably much more just keeping quiet tabs on people. We all know not to fall for empty calls to violence or anything else that could incriminate us here, so they probably don't bother to do that much (not saying they never would, just that they'd probably rather spend their time with the libs elsewhere poisoning the well against us).

      • DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml
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        4 months ago

        Hey fellow leftists, I've got a great idea to build solidarity, let's all talk about the various anti-government activities we all planned, especially the illegal ones, it'll be a great bonding moment.

        • RedCat@lemmygrad.ml
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          4 months ago

          For maximum bonding please include your fellow planners. Name and addresses are highly appreciated.

  • AutomatedPossum [she/her]
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    4 months ago

    Dude i get that the dunk tank isn't exactly a safe space, but you should probably put a CW for SA on that bottom text.