You see, whether you can draw like this or not, being able to think up this kind of design, it depends on whether or not you can say to yourself, “Oh, yeah, girls like this exist in real life.” If you don’t spend time watching real people, you can’t do this, because you’ve never seen it.

Some people spend their lives interested only in themselves. Almost all Japanese animation is produced with hardly any basis taken from observing real people, you know. It’s produced by humans who can’t stand looking at other humans. And that’s why the industry is full of otaku!

:miyazaki-laugh:

To take things even further I think that the objectification, flanderization, comodification and "othering "of female characters in anime has resulted in it almost exclusively catering incels and otaku that see women (and disturbingly, underage girls) as dolls to fetishise.

Which is frustrating because there is good anime out there that isn't like this, but I can't really say I'm an anime fan without people thinking I'm into moe crap or otakus gatekeeping me because I don't like their moe crap.

I just wanna talk about how cool Full Metal Alchemist is...

  • charly4994 [she/her, comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    There's some genuinely great stuff coming out still and though I haven't really watched anime in the last year, I feel like the trend for leftist messages in anime has been growing stronger. Decadance was basically just a giant metaphor for capitalism that the creators even outlined in a reddit AMA. Almost everything Trigger has had a hand in has strong leftist messaging except Darling in the Franxx and they were basically just hired to do the animation which was fine, it was the homophobic, hyper procreation messaging that was terrible.

    I also really enjoy seeing how the messaging in kids shows continues to evolve. Precure had some good representation of a guy that liked to be feminine and was able to transform into a precure without it being a joke, something that only a few years prior was treated as a joke. The shows generally have a bit of a girlboss vibe to them and while I won't watch every season, when the show gets it right, it works. You have things like Gegege no Kitarou which also are surprisingly aware of class struggle with an episode featuring an immigrant worker being exploited by the factory boss and being subjugated to near slave conditions, they don't let him punch the guy, but he still gets comeuppance. Nezumi Otoko almost always fucks shit up when his greed gets the better of him leading him to basically just become the corporate face of a lot of conflicts. You had a point where the show also outrights states that Japan was the bad guys in the Pacific War/WWII.

    I do genuinely agree with Miyazaki that there is too much reliance on tropes and people using other anime as a reference point. The most memorable stuff in recent years has taken its own unique approach to stuff and I do hope that the medium can benefit from better ideas and new approaches.

    • tetrabrick [xey/xem, she/her]
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      3 years ago

      in darling in the franxx the forced procreation with another asigned person was a theme, and it touches how it doesnt work for lots of reasons (dont know how how to spoil the text)

      • charly4994 [she/her, comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        I personally detest Franxx and was pretty much worked up into a rage by the end of the later episodes as they came out. The show's messaging was based around Japan's declining birth rate and tied in with real world politics of them trying to get more people to have kids when in reality they're seeing a decline in birth rates based on a bunch of factors. You have parents not having two children for a variety of reasons which leads to a non-replacement amount, you have the entire social aspect which is just kinda messed up, and instead of looking at any real reasons the show goes into a weird dystopian angle.

        I think these two writeups about Franxx go into much more detail than I could at this point since I've forgotten a bunch of detail about it.

        CW: Homophobia: Childbirth and Politics in Darling in the Franxx

        CW: homophobia

        The reference in this one to the one politician that said they were fine with LGBT suicides because they didn't procreate and were thus a waste of taxpayer money is reflected in my reading of the end of the show where the gay character after being dragged through the series dies early in a dark room alone while the rest of the characters are happy with their children outside in bright environments clearly taking a stance similar to the politician in how they frame these events even.

        The Outdated Gender Politics of Darling in the Franxx