Edit: Okay, wow. if the statement from a woman of “we owe you nothing” immediately sets you off emotionally, I would really encourage you to think through why that might be.
A more systemic phrasing could have been “we owe the patriarchy nothing”. I changed it to that for a second before realizing, again, that it was fine. A guy that has worked through internalized patriarchy around this will understand it’s not about them.
Patriarchy on the whole conditions men towards having a sense of entitlement towards women’s bodies, time, attention, labor, etc. It also conditions women that they should feel obligated to provide this without setting boundaries or expecting reciprocal solidarity.
Remember, we literally all have degrees of internalized bigotry, misogyny, racism, transphobia, etc because these are systemic issues. Our responsibility to ourselves and our comrades is to work through that. You are not a bad person for finding those brainworms in yourself, only if you refuse to do the work to address them.
It's very TERFy, that's for sure.
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Wait, how is this terf?
The whole "Fuck you men, we're WOMEN" thing just smells a heck of a lot like TERF language. It's activating all those brain cells in me and ringing a bell.
It's not inclusive, it's not welcoming, it's not empathetic (it's literally the opposite of empathetic). It defines an ingroup and and outgroup, and takes joy in the suffering of The Other.
Terf essentially just means radical feminist at this point. Or even just any type of feminist. Or not even feminist at all, like when it's used to describe conservatives.
Basically, terf is like tankie. It had a meaning but at this point it just denotes "one of the bad feminists / socialists".
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Is that not how it's used at this point? I've heard people call Ron DeSantis a terf