A 1956 agreement that allowed British boats to fish in the Barents Sea has been ripped up, in the latest sign of growing tensions between Moscow and the West.

The fishing deal was signed by Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev, but Russian politicians have now claimed it was never in the national interest.

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Russia's parliamentary speaker Vyacheslav Volodin said: "The British need to study some proverbs - 'Russians harness the horse slowly, but ride it fast'."

He told politicians that "the unscrupulous British" had eaten Russian fish for 68 years - declaring: "Now let them lose weight, get smarter."

  • snaprails@feddit.uk
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    9 months ago

    We should be fine, after all since Brexit we've plenty of happy contented British fish, right?

  • anothermember@lemmy.zip
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    9 months ago

    Fish consumption, of course, being a famous cause of obesity?

    Edit: Look, I'm making fun of the guy, I'm British, you don't need to all take it upon yourselves to explain fish and chips to me.

  • nohaybanda [he/him]
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    9 months ago

    in the latest sign of growing tensions between Moscow and the West.

    They're growing, are they? Cause from where I'm standing tensions have grown up, finished uni, settled down and recently had their second child

  • GreatAlbatross@feddit.ukM
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    9 months ago

    It's worth remembering that most things Russia says about the UK are for the domestic market.

    Like all the "turn the uk into glass" stories, barely mentioned here, but a frequent drumbeat on Russian TV.

    • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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      9 months ago

      warm water ports

      A meme that will only look sillier as climate change gets worse

        • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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          9 months ago

          https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-024-53308-5

          As Arctic ice continues to melt, [the Arctic Northern Sea Route] is anticipated to become more accessible to ships, albeit with navigational availability remaining contingent on the ship category and seasonal considerations.

          • deft@lemmy.wtf
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            9 months ago

            seasonal considerations

            A nice way of saying with warmer climates weather becomes more intense and less predictable.

            The artic north sea route also isn't what prevents them from using the port the entire year. It freezes, it will continue to freeze especially with the harsher cold snaps the globe faces.

            Again you don't seem to understand climate change it is not "lol planet gets hot teehee"

            • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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              9 months ago

              artic north sea

              When you have a deep understanding of the issue

              It freezes, it will continue to freeze

              No, the likely scenario is that maximal ice coverage will (continue to) recede noticeably.

              • deft@lemmy.wtf
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                9 months ago

                Lol okay you're right Russia is immune to climate change. St. Petersburg definitely isn't having flooding issues and Vladivostok didn't get smashed by a freak ice storm that other places across the globe have also been smashed by

                None of that happened I guess climate change isn't a problem

                • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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                  9 months ago

                  smuglord

                  We're talking about ports icing over, which will happen less as global temperatures rise. Bringing up other climate change problems (that are far from unique to Russia) does not change that.

                • Hello_Kitty_enjoyer [none/use name]
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                  9 months ago

                  you know westoids get flooded way worse than russia right
                  their most populous area is literally 10 ft above sea level, for the entire country

                  • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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                    9 months ago

                    Also like, Britain is islands and Russia is the largest country in the world. Who do you think is better equipped to handle rising sea levels? I know which has a LOOOOOT more inland.

                    • deft@lemmy.wtf
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                      9 months ago

                      Russia faces more flooding than the UK because of thawing snow and ice you dummy.

                      You don't even know the country you're trying to defend. Learn geography moron

                  • deft@lemmy.wtf
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                    9 months ago

                    Okay? St Petersburg has an issue with flooding. I don't know what you're trying to convince me of lmfao it's just the truth.

                    It is also the truth that Vladivostok got hit by a freak ice storm and their port freezes about 4 months out of the year.

                    Russia has always had struggles with ports. Climate change won't save them and will actively harm them like everyone else. Climate change also is not flat warming, that's what stupid people believe.

                    Why are you so insecure about those facts??

                    • Hello_Kitty_enjoyer [none/use name]
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                      9 months ago

                      St Petersburg has an issue with flooding

                      and Europe has a much bigger problem with flooding. Lemme just recap the tantrum:

                      1. "LMAO Russia doesn't have any warm water ports" -- you
                      2. uhh you know that's going to become less true as global warming progresses?
                      3. "LOL but St Petersburg is gonna get flooded from the meltwater" -- you
                      4. yea but Europe is going to get the same flood but 10x worse? Dutchland? Hello?
                      5. "UHH IDK WHAT you're tryna CONVINCE me of, I'm just stating facts!! I'm not owned! I'm not owned!" -- you

                      Climate change won't save them and will actively harm them like everyone else. Climate change also is not flat warming, that's what stupid people believe.

                      Yes, but some areas get hurt worse by climate change. Yes, it's not flat warming all at once. However both of these things fuck Europe over more than Russia. The AMOC gulf stream keeps Europe warm, not Russia. The entire Mediterranean is also going to be hurt particularly bad by droughts and wildfires. So that's a ton more refugees, not only from outside Europe but even from Southern Europe.

                      These problems simply do not exist for Russia, and its population density is far lower, and it will gain continents' more arable/habitable land as the climate warms, AND it will also receive more rainfall. It is not even close to a contest to say that Russia benefits more from climate change than any other nation on earth. If you don't think so, then post even one climate-induced problem that's unique to Russia (you can't)

                      • deft@lemmy.wtf
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                        9 months ago

                        that's absolutely not what happened lmfao

                        go defend russia with your body sis

                        • Hello_Kitty_enjoyer [none/use name]
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                          9 months ago

                          I literally don't care about Russia. Also get your tenses right, none of this shit happened yet. But 50 different climate models predict it to

                          • deft@lemmy.wtf
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                            9 months ago

                            Are you actually removed?

                            This is what happened

                            • jokes about Russian ports

                            • you begin flailing your arms, shidding, crying and cumming about Russia

                            also simp fuckin harder.

                            So let's break it down. First of all Russia has been saying for a decade that they'll use climate change to their advantage, this is called PROPAGANDA. Because it just isn't true or possible.

                            Let's check.

                            Permafrost releasing Anthrax and causing infrastructure to literally fall apart? What do you do when the ground melts below you??

                            https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/aug/01/anthrax-outbreak-climate-change-arctic-circle-russia

                            https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52977740

                            On top of that Russia is heating 2.5 times faster than the rest of the world. So much so that entire villages are lost to flooding in Siberia. Russia also will only face more and more wildfires as temperatures increase and the conifer trees will be forced to retreat north.

                            You mentioned them gaining more land to farm, untrue. Russia's breadbasket is the case because of the soil. The soil they'd get from thawing will actually reduce the amount of useable land. Why? Because the soil in the north is acidic as fuck and not great for crops especially the ones Russia tends to grow.

                            Excluding all of that. Climate change will increase the amount of fighting in the world which Russia kind of fuckin sucks at. Famines will happen, droughts will happen, heatwaves will happen, insects will swarm and flooding will increase (snow/ice melt doesn't matter about the elevation like you stupidly and oh so ignorantly suggested)

                            So basically you just don't know what you're talking about and trying to push old Russian propaganda that they'll use climate change to their benefit. Literally the lessening dependency on oil is leaving Russia in a bind right now and shit barely began.

                            Go be stupid somewhere else now.

    • AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]
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      9 months ago

      So you believe in a literal sense all the maps drawn in the west that still call Crimea a part of Ukraine?

      • deft@lemmy.wtf
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        9 months ago

        And you believe the actual verifiable lies told by Russia for the whole affair? Moron

                  • deft@lemmy.wtf
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                    9 months ago

                    Yes you are though as schoolchildren are dumb and often need to be educated.

                    You are dumb and seem to need an education. So thus "schoolchild"

                    • AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]
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                      9 months ago

                      Yes you are though as schoolchildren are dumb and often need to be educated.

                      Schoolchild as in you would fail a 6th grade english test

                      Not that your function is any better than your form. You can do nothing but call people stupid.

                      I can point at the real world and tell you that Russia holds Crimea. You can cry and delude yourself but you can't argue. You can only call names.

                      The irony is therefore that despite being the one calling the other stupid...

                      • deft@lemmy.wtf
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                        9 months ago

                        So you believe in a literal sense all the maps drawn in the west that still call Crimea a part of Ukraine?

                        Sevastopol belongs to Ukraine.

                        Crimea belongs to Ukraine.

                        What the fuck are you talking about

                        • AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]
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                          9 months ago

                          You have absolute baby brain. In what way does Crimea belong to Ukraine? They don't even border it anymore.

    • ns1@feddit.uk
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      9 months ago

      Luckily all kinds of fish are still readily available in the UK. Thanks for your concern though

    • anonochronomus [comrade/them, she/her]
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      9 months ago

      Pretty sure it's the British fishing boats who are going home in this scenario. Or, of course the other classic British move of starting a naval war over fishing rights.

    • DefinitelyNotAPhone [he/him]
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      9 months ago

      West: Coups border country on Russian borders, pumps weapons into said country, gleefully profits off of ensuing war, sanctions Russia, repeatedly drums up how Russia would be better off glassed

      Russia: Alright then, no more fishing rights in our territorial waters.

      West: frothingfash

    • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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      9 months ago

      Seems like most countries would cancel this sort of arrangement with a country funding their opponent in a war

    • zkrzsz [he/him]
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      9 months ago

      Said right there in the post summary

      Moscow says a 1956 agreement has been axed in response to the UK's sanctions on six people in charge of the penal colony where Alexei Navalny died.