• @jadero@mander.xyz
    hexbear
    24
    4 months ago

    It's always better to gain a full understanding of the system when trying to make important decisions.

    The trolley has two sets of wheels, leading and trailing, both of which must remain on the same set of tracks.

    The switch is designed to enable the trolley to change course, moving from one set of tracks to the other.

    Throwing the switch after the leading set has passed, but before the trailing set has reached the switch points will cause the two sets to attempt travel on separate tracks. The trolley will derail, rapidly coming to a halt. If the trolley is moving slowly enough to permit this action, nobody dies.

    Source: former brakeman (one of the people responsible for throwing switches), section hand (one of the people responsible for installing switches), and railroad welder (one of the people responsible for field repairs of switches).

    • @doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      hexbear
      6
      4 months ago

      I'm no expert, but I'd expect such a slow moving trolley to eventually derail itself anyway on account of all the corpses

      • @jadero@mander.xyz
        hexbear
        1
        4 months ago

        Yes, or come to a halt. You'd be surprised at how little it takes to reduce the already low friction to nothing. A bit of blood and a bit of resistance will bring it to a halt pretty quickly.

    • humanplayer2@lemmy.ml
      hexbear
      2
      4 months ago

      If the leading wheels are allowed to continue any interval down the original track, uncountably infinitely many people die.

      • @jadero@mander.xyz
        hexbear
        1
        4 months ago

        Only if those people can also be infinitely packed into the distance the leading truck (the set of wheels) manages to travel.

        Which, I guess is fair play in a thought experiment involving different sizes of infinities. :)

  • pruwyben@discuss.tchncs.de
    hexbear
    22
    4 months ago

    I would question the ability to line people up on a railroad track such that they have a 1:1 correspondence with the real numbers.

  • @Raebxeh
    hexbear
    6
    4 months ago

    Unless the trolley is traveling with infinite velocity or the people have infinitely small mass, it would never make it past its first countable infinity of people. Therefore there is no difference.

  • @vamputer@infosec.pub
    hexbear
    6
    edit-2
    4 months ago

    Do nothing, since an infinite number of people implies an inconceivable population overgrowth, so the best possible good for humanity is to cull the population.

    Heck, you could probably go out and genocide the rest of the population that isn't tied to the track and still not suffer any real loss. Then, you face the last true enemy: the bloodsoaked beast responsible for the deaths of untold billions- yourself.

    Once you've slain that last creature, all of humanity that still remains will be those tied to the railroad track. The only living people will spend their entire lives knowing nothing but the track and the trolley, and the imposing fear that one day, they, too, shall be crushed under its wheels like those before them.

    The only life remaining for the human race is now one of terror and eventual slaughter. There are no good outcomes to this conundrum. There are only the uncaring wheels of the trolley.

  • @Zerush@lemmy.ml
    hexbear
    5
    4 months ago

    I kill the trolley driver. The Dead Man button makes that the trolley stops.

  • @humbletightband@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    hexbear
    4
    4 months ago

    I'll do nothing. Either way those people will eventually die - because of the train or because of starvation and dehydration. I would prefer the train.

  • @deur@feddit.nl
    hexbear
    2
    4 months ago

    Did nobody have math class? The pictures are always misleading!

    It never actually specifies the density the people are packed onto the track, the image implies an answer.

    I'd argue that the densities should be considered to be equal, regardless of whatever that density value may be. We do not need to solve for the exact value to discuss the problem at hand!

  • @frezik@midwest.social
    hexbear
    2
    4 months ago

    The same thing most people would do when presented with a Trolly Problem for real. Analysis paralysis, choose to do nothing, then cry softly every night for the rest of my life.

  • @Krauerking@lemy.lol
    hexbear
    2
    4 months ago

    Pull the lever. Save as many lives as you can and hope that someone that now wasn't killed as fast can help come up with a solution for the runaway trolley.