I gotta say the death cult shit on the left is so wildly fucking weird to me. it really is one of those just like entirely sociopathic things where people have just decoupled themselves from empathy so much through frustration and demoralisation they've ironically, which always ends up meaning earnestly but detached and with a thin veneer of dismissal, embraced this idea that horrific judgement day levels of shit is needed on certain countries and large groups (not talking about the bourgeoisie here, but the working masses), millions we all openly agree are shaped and brainwashed by systems outside of their control. do bad people and places cause unimaginable pain? for sure, but to then throw that blind injust dehumanised violence back at the masses that characterises imperialism and capitalism is full of this Christian evangelical smite and divine retribution of those who have sinned beyond salvation and must die to cleanse the world.
I already know all the explanations, 'it's just a meme', 'the imperial core did bad stuff so needs to suffer', 'the west will never embrace socialism unless enforcement via mass violence and destruction of all institutions and infrastructure'. but the thing is like, you read any text by international communists, black radical groups, anti imperialists, they literally all say 'we just want you to stop being assholes so we can be friends who work together', and so it seems to be this self hatred that fuels this than any outside demands, one which just seems really unnecessary and honestly childish especially from people who claim to have a deeper materialist analysis which breaks down why these opinions and actions are so common and systemically enforced.
your name is DeathToBritain? You probably know what we mean then. Honestly yeah it is sometimes concerning, but I think there's a difference between expressing frustration and putting forth a real theoretical platform. Most of what I see here is a kind of hopeless frustration, not an actual call for violence. Sometimes I do see genuine calls for violence here and they're far more unhinged. Usually those people get banned or people in the replies will express concern.
It's not like we come here to actually organize or theorize. We come here to have shared suffering and camaraderie.
I don't even think about is as like a branding or optics thing, I just find it uncomfortable to knowingly want mass innocent deaths for people you've decided are guilty by proximity.
i don't think most people want that so much as we might be steeled by the idea it might occur, or we're just depressed. I don't know.
also again, most of the time here it's an expression of bitter frustration rather than a genuine call to organize, fund, and enact a mass war against innocent people. Like me personally I've had so many family members die of covid that I actually do want the people responsible put on trial and executed.
nobody actually wants "mass innocent deaths", total wrecker accusation.