I gotta say the death cult shit on the left is so wildly fucking weird to me. it really is one of those just like entirely sociopathic things where people have just decoupled themselves from empathy so much through frustration and demoralisation they've ironically, which always ends up meaning earnestly but detached and with a thin veneer of dismissal, embraced this idea that horrific judgement day levels of shit is needed on certain countries and large groups (not talking about the bourgeoisie here, but the working masses), millions we all openly agree are shaped and brainwashed by systems outside of their control. do bad people and places cause unimaginable pain? for sure, but to then throw that blind injust dehumanised violence back at the masses that characterises imperialism and capitalism is full of this Christian evangelical smite and divine retribution of those who have sinned beyond salvation and must die to cleanse the world.

I already know all the explanations, 'it's just a meme', 'the imperial core did bad stuff so needs to suffer', 'the west will never embrace socialism unless enforcement via mass violence and destruction of all institutions and infrastructure'. but the thing is like, you read any text by international communists, black radical groups, anti imperialists, they literally all say 'we just want you to stop being assholes so we can be friends who work together', and so it seems to be this self hatred that fuels this than any outside demands, one which just seems really unnecessary and honestly childish especially from people who claim to have a deeper materialist analysis which breaks down why these opinions and actions are so common and systemically enforced.

  • DeathToBritain [she/her, they/them]
    hexagon
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    3 years ago

    https://hexbear.net/post/194269/comment/2438894 I mean for one here's literally a comment from a few hours ago in the mega that is the kinda stuff I am talking about

    • iwishthiswasicq [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      ok yeah random online accounts who prolly aren't organizing don't really have value to their words.

      like if visible leftist ppl were saying stuff like this then yeah that's an isssue obvi, but random wall or send the nukes xi jokes are just that lol~~___~~

    • Asa_the_Red [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      This is clearly someone witnessing the hatred and bigotry average Americans dish out on a regular basis, then going online to express discontent and blow off some steam by calling for something extreme that will never actually happen. They know that the old testament christian god isnt going to be smiting anyone in 2022, its just words expressing discontent.

      What exactly do we as a group gain by telling people that they cant say stuff like this? Saying "I wish god would smite americans" or "President Xi please press the button" doesnt actually have any material effect, and the people saying those things know this. These are jokes. Certainly it's dark humor, but sometimes people need to laugh at horrible things to help them cope with the terrors of reality.

    • blobjim [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      and yet that comment probably resonates more with a lot of people than some tone policing crap.