Yes, I know from a rhetorical perspective they're a bunch of jerks who do nothing but complain, but is there an actual takedown of their ideological notions? Because just saying they suck without further explanation makes it hard to dismiss them when they pop up. I don't agree with them, I just want to know why I shouldn't. Something about statues and logic and being chained in a courtyard with wind and all that. I'm not sure where to put this, sorry.
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I don't know any serious answers. As far as I know, the problem is that they read too many books, or not enough books? Not the right amount of books I guess is the point.
I just find the framing of "I don't know about these people except that I know I'm not supposed to agree with them" funny-troubling.
The site is far enough left that it’s pretty easy to forget not everyone has a background dealing with some of the weird pseudo-strains of leftism.
I was covering my ass because I was worried if I asked without that little disclaimer I would get people thinking I'm a leftcom.
fwiw theres one leftcom who comes on here every few months and writes a couple of long and unreadable sectarian wall-of-text screeds about the real movement to abolish the present state of things and ruthless critique of all that exists, calls everyone else fake marxists and then promptly gets banned again. so kinda like a more boring version of bmf but they do liven up the place a bit
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That’s called a “shibboleth”, a phrase spoken in an attempt to prove the speaker is on the same side as the audience. It’s a phenomenon that super common in the west.
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who reads books anyway
“I’ll take ‘Shibboleths’ for 500, Alex”