I was looking for black bear videos after @Darthsenio_Mall's recent post and found this lol.

  • Nakoichi [they/them]
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    idk if you understand the disparity between these animals lol

    Since 1900, 67 people have been killed by a black bear in North America. These are the rarest attacks compared to the ones by grizzly bears. In contrast, grizzlies killed 664 people between 2000–2015.

    https://bear.org/how-dangerous-are-black-bears/

    If a black bear gets aggressive you have a fairly high chance of survival. If a grizzly gets aggressive you're just fucked.

    Black bear: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpeHzsplOnM

    Brown bear: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J184FmCiuLk

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      With black bears, if they attack, fight back. They'll generally back off pretty quickly.

      With brown bears; play dead. usually once the bear realizes you're not a threat they'll leave you alone and walk away eventually. Also, if you fight back, you'll just die tired.

      • Nakoichi [they/them]
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        Yeah playing dead won't save you if it's hungry but if it just thought you were encroaching on its territory and a threat to its primary food source it might leave you alone.

        Also with black bears a knife could be enough to save you, Grizzlies can take a shotgun to the face and still fuck you up.

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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          Growing up I hear lots of stories of brown bears shrugging off .357 rounds to the skull, or losing an entire arm to a shotgun blast then coming back to maul a hunter or fisher later. I think the only gun worth having if you insist on bringing a gun in to bear country is a semi-auto shotgun with slugs. But honestly, most people do just fine with bear spray and singing.

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            read a thing about natives in alaska hunting with .22s (and some slightly larger rounds) and killing grizzlies and moose cause .22s are the cheapest. they get the right angle and shoot them in the back of the head to sever the spine from the head. or straight through the eye. wild shit

            • Nakoichi [they/them]
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              straight through the eye. wild shit

              That's how the monster in the book The Relic is finally brought down and I think the protagonist even mentions killing a bear.

              It's a really good book and so is the sequel if you like sci-fi murder misteries with horror elements.

    • kristina [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      generally with how expensive healthcare is imma just keep my ass sat down :comfy:

      • Nakoichi [they/them]
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        While you shouldn't fuck with either, one is 20X more likely to kill you.

          • Nakoichi [they/them]
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            Oh yeah polar bears are like grizzlies but worse.

            Most people will luckily never encounter one though,

            • knifestealingcrow [any]
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              3 years ago

              lives in an area with black bears and knows how to deal with them

              :bloomer: if they get close I can just scare them off

              Realizes I live in an area with polar bears too, knows they listen to no reason and cannot be intimidated

              :doomjak: :die:

          • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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            Then you get leopards that can stalk you for days without you knowing...

            African leopards have preyed on hominids for over 6 million years, and leopards in India are responsible for more human deaths than all other carnivores combined in the areas that they inhabit. Leopards can also do surplus killing, there's stories of leopards wiping out entire flocks of sheep. Leopards hunting us is hypothesized to have played a large part in human evolution.

            I'm honestly more scared of leopards than lions.

    • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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      This made me google the stats for leopards and apparently they kill 55 people a year in Nepal, a rate per capita over 15 times higher than anywhere else for leopards, even in modern times. (The study was from 2001).

      Leopards also killed almost 12 000 people on the Indian subcontinent between 1875 and 1912, apparently one leopard killed over 400 people, wtf is wrong with leopards man.

      • Nakoichi [they/them]
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        wtf is wrong with leopards man

        ikr gotta pump those numbers up.

        • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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          They've basically been hunting us for over 6 million years, theres fossils of early hominids in Sub Saharan Africa that were killed by leopards.

          Apparently once they have the taste for human flesh they get addicted to it, and they're used to hunting primates because 80% of their diet is non human primates. Per capita 2 people per million die each year of leopard attacks in Nepal.

          Leopards, brown bears, polar bears, everything wants to kill us in nature.

            • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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              They don't even have those animals over there, yet everything still wants to kill them over there.

              Going to start going full :illuminati: about how settler colonialism has fucked up the behaviour of animals or something