• Sandinband
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    3 years ago

    Men helping men get rid of their extreme biases can really work. My bf got some dude to stop being an incel through challenging him on his misogynistic thoughts and taking him to the gym with him. Now that guy has a girlfriend and people don't hate being around him because he's completely changed.

    It think if they're really far gone they need a man to get them out, then they can actually listen to women to become a feminist (if they get that far, most will just see women as equal and not think of the ways they're discriminated against). I dont see a misogynistic man becoming less sexist/a feminist through the help of women alone because not listening to women is kinda their thing

    ie why you can't change a sexist partner by convincing them of the struggles you go through/your worth, they already think less of you and you're still with them

    • Ideology [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      Pretty much hard agree. Men implicitly supporting shitty behaviors in their friends only emboldens them to continue acting that way. But dudes care a lot about the disapproval of male figures for reasons.

      The only other way I've seen to breach that gap of empathy other than dudes battling it out in the marketplace of ideas is transitioning. Suddenly getting thrown into a fem body can be a huge wake-up call.