Normally I don't interact with reddit but I saw this and found it interesting. This post is dripping with the alienation women feel from patriarchal norms and it feels like women in general have a bit of radical frustration brewing.

oof

Yeah, it's not just politics men will lie about.

My sister told stories of guys who lied about lots of things, pretending to be something they thought she'd want in a man. They'd lie about how much money they made, what their jobs were, all kinds of stuff. Why would a guy willing to lie about his job and his income find a pang of conscience and be honest about his political beliefs?

One of our sons is gay, and our daughter discovered that referring to "my brother and his boyfriend" (now "husband," thank you 2015 Supreme Court) had a way of exposing cracks in men's façades. They'd pretend to be progressive - after all, if they really followed they conservative ideals they promoted they wouldn't want sex at all until marriage - but their faces would change a little when they found she had a gay brother with a boyfriend.


Askmen's response

Posted THIS in r/askmen. I’ve noticed the disparities in responses in womens vs mens and it will hopefully be interesting.

Adding user responses below:

Easier that way. When men are together and no women are around you probably wouldn't believe the things that come out of the mouthes of your brother, father, lover, son, etc. I work with all women and am one of 5 guys, which 0 are on my shift with me. Anytime politics or religion or anything comes up like it does all day every day I just shut my mouth and agree with whatever they say or pretend to be aloof and like they are teaching me something. Much easier that way because being factually correct and being "right" are two totally different things and sorry ladies but we all know which one of those you strive to be.

For the pussy

To get laid

I DID IT ALL FOR THE NOOKIE

Sometimes it's just about getting laid

I keep reading "I will hide my support of parties that support various forms of misogyny until I get the thing I want from the people affected by that misogyny" and Jesus fuck you could consider maybe, just fucking maybe, if you have to be dishonest to get what you want maybe you're on the wrong damn side. Somehow being a lying selfish asshole has become virtue signaling to other men which is exactly how societies fall apart or go to civil war. It's not because you have a dick. It's because you're an asshole that you have to lie to get pussy.

Men don't, Republicans do.

You know why.

Because their opinions if expressed would make a vagina dry up faster than the Sahara Desert.

To get laid.

We're willing to listen to your delusional bs, inflated sense of self-importance and narcissism for the brief access to your clam.

You're welcome.

There’s only one reason and it’s pretty obvious.

This sounds exclusive to people with conservative political views. In which case they are aware women won't like their actual opinions, so they decieve someone into sleeping with them.

If you are terrified of being deceived, simply make an excessive amount of abortion jokes. Liberal guys most likely won't care but you will push a conservatives buttons and they will show some slight resistance, probably.

Because they're trying to have sex, not debate how ridiculous the Democratic party has become.

To get laid. I won't tell women around I think immigrants can GTFO because women are sensitive and that's irrilevant for my goal.

Because our views on politics aren't that important, but some people think they are. Just because I think something today doesn't mean I'm willing to die for it or even that I'll have the same idea tomorrow.

Frankly my view on politics is so unimportant to me that I don't really defend it. But if I share it, people have instantly branded me a far- right bigot and then there's no convincing them otherwise.

I just would want something that dumb to come between a potentially great relationship.

We do it to get laid.

Because the competition is lying as well. Gotta keep up.

Cause they trying to get that punani

Is this a real question?? Like really??

Because he knows no woman would be willing to.sleep with him if they know how he really feels

I don't lie about anything. I am also not very successful with pursuing women. Anecdotal evidence but take it for what you will
  • kristina [she/her]
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    its happened to me. it was really bad, like basically 1 step from fascism and he thought he could convert me :yea: luckily found a good communist

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        the sad thing is i had sex with the other guy and then he decided to spill the beans after i found some nazi shit in his literal closet :sadness-abysmal: he was all like 'oooh a friend just gave me that' at first lmfao do you think i have 1 brain cell

        • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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          Why do people do this shit.

          I went camping with some folks before COVID, we drink around the fire, talk about stuff, shits cool. I wake up the next morning and one of the guys is wearing his father's army jacket with the apartheid South Africa flag patch on it! Wtf I was legit scared. Imagine if he knew I was bi or something.

          • star_wraith [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            Unrelated question, but what kind of connotation does the old apartheid-era flag hold in South Africa? Like, what would happen to a white South African walking down the street in Johannesburg with that flag on a t-shirt?

            • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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              3 years ago

              Very racist connotation. You'd be beat up, it's illegal to display aside for legitimate historical or artistic purposes, like a museum or film about the past.

        • Ideology [she/her]
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          Jesus, I'm sorry.

          It is really fuckin weird how conservatives are drawn to us like flies to honey. They seem to think cis-women are pathologically unbearable harpies, but because some femboys are nazis it shouldn't be hard to convert transfems.

          4chan is a weird place.

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            idk if he was a 4channer or not. he just did a bernie bro twinky aesthetic and the mask started to slip when i was reading about some bills back then on trans restrictions and he was very callous and didnt give a shit about it. later found that shit in his closet. like it was really bizarre, he even introduced me to his mom so he definitely thought that he could work his scheme out

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              A lot of Bernie bros were former channers. The reason I suspect that is because you don't have to dig very deep to find fetishy threads, and boomer-demographic chud sites tend to stick with disgust rather than the hate-because-attracted thing you see in younger rightwingers. It's been a thing since the 00s.

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                like with this experience fr i go feral whenever people say 'trans people are lying about who they are to have sex with cissies!'. nah motherfucker its the MEN who are lying, ALL THE TIME. stop projecting

                like my paranoia was so bad after this that i literally gave my current bf a marxist history test

                • Ideology [she/her]
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                  3 years ago

                  like my paranoia was so bad after this that i literally gave my current bf a marxist history test

                  Question 3: Name 3 revisionists and your reasoning for each answer. No checking wikipedia.

                  • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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                    3 years ago

                    Question 3: Name 3 revisionists and your reasoning for each answer. No checking wikipedia.

                    This is how you end up with a concrete bunker in your living room. :hoxha-turt:

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            • Ideology [she/her]
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              They still characterize themselves as the sad unloved incel despite it all.

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              • star_wraith [he/him]
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                Fun fact: a whole book was written about how studies showed women living in communist countries had better, more fulfilling sex lives.

                • kristina [she/her]
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                  its true. my bf has made me cum 2000x more than all the other fuckin libs ive dated. he says he cant get off without me doing it first cause he loves to see how i shake and hear the noises i make. he sometimes even chains them up on me just to turn my brain into liquid :meow-melt:

                  ladies first :fidel-cool:

                  • HodgePodge [love/loves]
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                    Goddamn. Does he have, like, a brother or other siblings who are single?

                    :hyperflush:

        • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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          :agony-turbo: What the FUCK is wrong with people, I'm so sorry that happened. :pit: :stalin-gun-1::stalin-gun-2:

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      I dated a guy once who claimed to be communist, openly actually, before I was open about being more than wearing that old classic Bernie Sanders Enjoyer fursona we use for interacting with normal people.

      But he didn't have extensive knowledge or interest in President Xi. Ok, fine, there's other types of communists. He wasn't really a fan of Stalin. Ok, whatever. He didn't know who Hoxha or Sankura was. That's fine, I don't technically know who Lenin is. He wasn't a fan of Lenin anyways. OK, so he's an anarchist? He didn't seem to know who Kropotkin or Grimes was. This was before V**sh was thing.

      I would have broken it off eventually, but unrelated things caused me to break it off earlier.

      • kristina [she/her]
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        yeah my ex would do shit like that. if i grilled him i kept making excuses in my head like 'eh maybe hes just bad at history' or something.

        i learned to stop making excuses for people. if they suck, they suck

      • Nagarjuna [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        OK, so he’s an anarchist? He didn’t seem to know who Kropotkin or Grimes was

        This is sectarianism lmao

    • Parent [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      Damn that sucks. How'd you meet and how far did you go before realizing? What were the signs?

      • kristina [she/her]
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        dating site, ~3 months of seeing each other about 2 days per week. there were lot of little things that added up. like how he'd usually be tonally dismissive of certain things politically while saying something else. first i just chocked it up to him being distracted / thinking about other things but apparently it was just a whole lot of lying and he spilled the beans at the end