Yeah, I mean tbf they don't think voting matters, but seem heavily invested in trying to convince others that the dems aren't worth a vote. I kind of just think yeah, I agree, now I'm done thinking about it once the decision is made. I don't need to watch 3 hours a day of content about it for the next 2 years. I'm trying to convince them to read theory instead and they make fun of me for it lol.