I don't remember this being posted here and I just heard about it today, so it's news to me.

  • mao_zedonk [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I think they know better than to start starving massive groups of people within the imperial core. They are just fine with the government running huge deficits to pay for people to eat, provided the people are saddled with the responsibility of the debt. They're not stupid.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      2 years ago

      I think they know better than to start starving massive groups of people within the imperial core.

      Do you think they'll have the power to stop it much longer?

      Turning and turning in the widening gyre
      The falcon cannot hear the falconer; Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold; Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world, The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
      The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst
      Are full of passionate intensity.

      Surely some revelation is at hand; Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
      The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
      When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
      A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
      A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
      Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
      Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
      The darkness drops again; but now I know
      That twenty centuries of stony sleep Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
      And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
      Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

      • Yeats
      • UlyssesT
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        16 days ago

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      • mao_zedonk [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Do you think they’ll have the power to stop it much longer?

        I don't really understand what you mean, or your conception of power. What exactly do you think it is that is out of their hands that would lead to mass starvation?

        • nohaybanda [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          They are the beneficiaries of the current system, but fundamentally it's not them but Capitalism that has the wheel. And Capitalism will happily drive us off a cliff chasing the line.

          Case in point, climate change looms over us and nothing substantial is getting done to prepare us, let alone stop it. There will be famines, this much is a given.

          • mao_zedonk [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            I disagree that the owners of media conglomerates, politicians and right-wing think tanks are not at the wheel.

            I agree climate change will lead to famine and nothing is being done to prevent it, but it won't do so for the imperial core for many decades.

            • Wheaties [she/her]
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              2 years ago

              I disagree that the owners of media conglomerates, politicians and right-wing think tanks are not at the wheel

              Their decision making is still constrained by the meta-game of capital. Conservatives may be "at the wheel", but they can no more make a decision that breaks from the profit lust than their liberal counterparts could. Even if would save their own hold on power, even to keep their own grandchildren from starving in the next Dustbowl.

              It's why they're so darn furious. They've gotten everything they purport to want and the results, well, it's proof negative of everything they believe.