• Straight_Depth [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    You were saying "on this site" and neither Haz nor Maupin are on this site, they'd be laughed off or outright banned. Anonymous Marxists and patsoc weirdos are a tiny, irrelevant, and insignificant tendency, they are literal nobodies without any power, following, or influence. They're not even worth mentioning.

    • Prolefarian [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      There were definitely a few "Z posting" alt accounts that popped up.

      • Straight_Depth [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        Well, we have the literal "Z-poster" visiting this very thread, but it's one singular, albeit very vocal user. I don't see it as a pervasive issue, just one person with some bad opinions. They'll probably get bored and leave/get banned for being reactionary.

            • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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              2 years ago

              Fully support them and all progressive struggles for equal treatment.

              The primary contradiction is imperialism however, and nothing will ever make me support the colonizers over the colonized, even if they have better stances on other issues

    • Socialism_enjoyer [they/them]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      I kind of misphrased the original post, I meant that I’d seen pro-Russia people on here, but mainly in other places, the post was meant to be about why anybody on the left would support the invasion. If the post is this easy to misinterpret i should probably delete it.

      • comi [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Because geopolitics/cynicism or really hating fashies (despite being ideological fig leaf, they have some fashies there, but not enough for invasion)

        • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          How much is enough for invasion? How many civilians do the fascists need to torture and kill before you are justified in destroying them? How many governorships, minister positions, mayoral positions, military officers, etc being filled with Nazis does it take to make them a threat? How much military do you allow them to amass on your border on behalf of empire?

          Russia waited far too long for this and should have crush the fascist junta in 2014

          • comi [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            For socialist state sure, for capitalist it’s just an excuse.

            How many people saddam has to kill for usa to invade? I’m not talking babies in incubators dipshittery, he still was fairly brutal. Was at any point usa invasion justified? (Aside from iran Iraq, but obviously they liked him then).

            There are core commonalities in those two wars, and if try to psychology away the real reason (porky interests), you’ll arrive at complicated answer, which is not necessarily true.

            Why russia hasn’t attacked in 2014 indeed? Why not in 2019? How are medvedchuk and firtash really involved? Why has not russia restricted gas flows which makes weapons to kill them? Or uranium, or titanium? Why ukrainian oligarchs financed fascists? Why hasn’t russia financed anti fascists?

            • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              For socialist state sure, for capitalist it’s just an excuse

              the fact that Donbas isn't a socialist state doesn't mean that neo nazis attempting to ethnically cleanse them isn't an unacceptable situation

              the region has had fighting for the last 8 years

      • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        Why wouldn’t you support the destruction of a NATO backed coup by the anti-imperialist bloc?