I've been trying to be helpful on the Helldivers sub. When people say "X is impossible and Y needs to be nerfed/buff I'd go earnestly say "okay this is how it works, and these are the tools you have, and here is how you can use those tools to solve the problem or succeed or overcome the situation.

And, invariably, what I get back is abuse and scorn and insults and incredulity. The poster, and the hundreds of people supporting them, don't want the solution to be within them. They don't want to hear that they have not mastered game systems, that they don't understand how the weapons and enemies work, that they're making mistakes that can be corrected or that they can learn new tactics that will grant them victory.

The problem cannot lie in them. The problem must be external. The game must be broken, or bugged, or the devs must be fools. They are good enough and skilled enough and smart enough to play on the highest difficulty, but they cannot win, so the highest difficulty is broken and the devs must mechanically reduce the difficulty until they can easily, effortlessly conquer, until their "power fantasy" of unlimited unearned prowess can be restored. If they are challenged, if they face difficulty, if they face hardship, that is a flaw in the game. All obstacles must be smoothed down. Their favorite weapon should be the ideal choice for all situations.

At first I was overjoyed at the opportunity to share my knowledge and expertise, to help others learn what I had learned and enjoy the sublime feeling of mastery.

Then i was confused, because the rejection of simple tactics, simple explanations of systems and ideas, must mean I was not communicating clearly enough. Surely, if I only found the right words?

Then, anger. Why won't they engage with these ideas? Why do they reject simple explanations clearly explained? Why do they insult and berate instead of questioning or interrogating? Where is the desire to grow, to overcome, to perfect?

Finally; contempt. I do not care. These fools, let them stew in their own ignorance and misery. What can be said to them? They cannot be educated, not because they are illiterate, but because they refuse the mere possibility of education. They refuse to accept the world as it is, instead demanding from god the utopia they surely deserve.

What can you say to someone like that? What can you do but sneer "git gud" and move on?

I'd never really questioned where the "git gud" cliche that Dark Souls players threw around so mercilessly came from. But now I suspect that I know.

  • space_comrade [he/him]
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    8 个月前

    Literally a skill issue. Helldivers 2 maybe doesn't spell out what works well on what opponents and what not but it telegraphs it implicitly pretty well and you can figure everything out with a bit of experimentation, it's a very well designed game IMO.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
      hexagon
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      8 个月前

      It really is. And the patch is great. The laser cannon feels really good, the flamethrower is on much more solid footing. The 120mm and 380mm might a little too good, as they more or less just delete bot bases now. The slugger and punisher are just beastly and I wouldn't be surprised if they replace the breaker as the new "AHHHHHHHHHH THE GAME IS UNPLAYABLE WITHOUT THIS GUN IT IS LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE". Heavy armor feels amazing, the extra survivability is bonkers against bots and bugs and I've never felt slowed down by it. The new exterminate missions with that require 400ish kills are harder to just turn your brain off or spam mortars for. You have to work for it a little. All in all great improvements all around.