Anyone have any favorite subversive/leftist games? There used to be a great one about the apple supply line where you had to move the nets to catch the guys jumping out of the factory in china and throw the e waste in a dumpster fire in pakistan. Banned from the app store of course lmao.
Yeah, genuinely. A good shorthand idea is that every time you source your meal one step up on the "animal kingdom" then you require 10x more calories to have produced that than you ate. For example, if you ate only cows, and those cows ate only corn, then every gram of beef you ate would have required 10 grams of corn. This goes up in scale too, say you ate an alligator, each gram of meat of the alligator required 10 grams of Floridian geese, and every gram of Floridian geese required 10 grams of Floridian grass, meaning every gram of alligator you eat required 100g of grass to be created.
This is why most people don't eat carnivores, because the calories required to keep carnivores alive just to eat is hugely unweildy and impractical, while industrializing the farming of herbivores is temporarily sustainable but long term laughably unsustainable as well. I'm not very good at explaining this but other comrades are.
Ahh yes I've heard that science before. It does make sense in that aspect but it isn't a zero sum game is it? My initial rebuttal is thinking the disappearing mass doesn't just disappear, it goes into the more nutrition-rich and dense meat. I can't help but think barring a way to mass-produce meat (like the game presents) or massive degrowth (like the game presents) the existing means of animal agriculture will need to stay in order to not put undue physical deterioration on many people or on production of plant agriculture. But in any case it would be reduced in accordance with discarding the profit motive driving its current ridiculous production... Which of course is the root issue. But yeah if anyone wants to jump in or you want to clarify? I'm not entirely on board with the rationale for delet'ing animal agriculture purely because of the possibly incorrect "common sense"/chauvinist idea that humans are generally omnivorous and do need meat to feasibly meet the requirements for healthy living (of course this is to mean for the vast majority of people, that is to say you couldn't sustainably create the amount of nutrient rich plant food the entire world would need)
When I was thinking about why it would need to be discarded I was thinking that on top of the need to feed animals, and all the byproducts of keeping and kiling them, there's the whole transport chain side of the equation rife with bizarre "capitalist efficiencies" that save money but cause SO MANY problems. That alone would be a massive emissions and resources factor that would be mitigated and greatly reduced by the removal of privatization and the profit motive.
Yeah but those calories don't all go to the meat, they mostly get discarded and turned to methane or useless waste or other stuff. I'm not an expert, I just know this off the top of my head, I think it'd probably be more productive for you to search and read online
most of it becomes poop